No, it's not that "utopian" society.

I'm not even going to argue anymore. I'm sick of being talked down to from all angles when all I'm trying to do is give everyone a fighting chance at living a good life. I was hoping someone here would want to work with me to figure out something that would work better than the system we have now, but oh well.

I will say this, though. If you dig in to history, you'll find that a lot of what we know about socialism comes out of the propaganda pushed by neo-conservatives during the Cold War.

And by the way, even communist nations are still competitive, and no less capitalistic than we are. Did you think China just gave us all of the lovely little things we import from them?