Why is socialism so bad?

[flyingimam]

all that shit u just typed, for sake of space

IOU another + rep man!

[JeffersonBud]

Want to know why a socialist party is bad? Watch the movie "The Lives of Others" (its a German flick). you can rent it at blockbuster. One of the best movies ever to grace the screen.

[bigtopsfinn]

Want to know why a socialist party is bad? Watch the movie "The Lives of Others" (its a German flick). you can rent it at blockbuster. One of the best movies ever to grace the screen.

YES!!! Great movie actually... but as iamkowalski explained earlier, this is the society where everyone wears gray and in the militaristic society. This is hard-core socialism, and it is actually a true story.

When communism was first "invented", it was a great idea, and many people embraced it. Over time, we saw that it was great on paper, but just didn't work in practice (the only exception being Cuba). Now, who is to say that capitalism works either? We human beings have a problem, where we tend to do things for our own good, and not the greater good. This happens in communism and capitalism...

Thanks everyone for replying, and not letting this get out of control like some of the other political threads!

[maladroit]

"Socialism and Capitalism are unable to coexists."

- they coexist in the usa where some financial institutions are privately owned, some are part private and part government, and some of the largest are 100% government owned

[ralphbuick]

Socialism is Bad = Greed is Good

[theforthdrive]

sadly, one problem with profit oriented healthcare is that it plays with people's quality of life and even their death, over what? profit and money? I don't think money is worth everything. At least a companies' or a few in individuals (shareholders) profit aint worth nobodies life.

its called healthcare how can u take "care" of someone's health when the first order of business is to take care of your money even if its at expense of someone's life. these two will not always go along, u know...

Love it. this is a major issue with me! Im guessing stoned88911, youve never been placed in a position of being at the mercy of insurance co. and medical bills. We can beat this dead horse all we want, but some people dont see that we do have social aspects in the US gov't. Where do you stand on the 700 bil. bailout? thats direct socialism if you ask me. we just nationalized a large portion of the banking industry but somehow the mention of allowing proper health care is socialist propaganda. I just think that if we are not going to have a complete laissez faire gov't two things should be the right of every American, greatest nation on earth , healthcare and education. maybe we should start making everyone pay to go to school too, huh?

[bigtopsfinn]

I may have found my answer:

For those who don't know Geert Hofstede, he is a Dutch researcher who studied cultural differences from country to country (I think about 80 countries in total). He had 5 different dimensions, and individualism was one of them:

"There are only seven (7) countries in the Geert Hofstede research that have Individualism (IDV) as their highest Dimension: USA (91), Australia (90), United Kingdom (89), Netherlands and Canada (80), and Italy (76).

The high Individualism (IDV) ranking for the United States indicates a society with a more individualistic attitude and relatively loose bonds with others. The populace is more self-reliant and looks out for themselves and their close family members."

Perhaps this is one of the reasons why Americans (in general) to not favor socialist ideas... just thought it was interesting. here's the link if you want to see more: United States - US or American Geert Hofstede Cultural Dimensions Explained

[Fugitive]

I think the current form of socialism is a damaging and false ideology. This relatively new socialist experiment in Europe, I believe, will be detrimental in the long run. This may sound harsh, but it is essentially funding the lazy and incompetent. As well as encouraging them to breed (more children more money).

If you don't contribute to society then society should not contribute to you. Following that logic I would be in favour of healthcare for those who work or are incapable because of disease or handicap. I would also agree to scholarships for good students. I believe with the money saved people who truly need help will get more attention.

AT THE VERY least the people on welfare should get a job list they can accept or refuse for two months. If they keep refusing and are perfectly able, then the funding should not continue. I know that businesses are turning to china and it leaves many people unemployed . . . but aren't we always told we need immigrants to fill jobs? Something doesn't add up.

[maladroit]

whatever the usa is doing is even more damaging because it's resulted in:

- $10.5 trillion national debt
- 45 million people with NO health insurance
- another 40 million people with inadequate health insurance
- substandard health outcomes compared to other developed countries
- substandard education compared to other developed countries

that doesn't mean the usa is a terrible place, or that i hate the usa...it means the usa government is not doing a very good job of protecting and promoting the public interest...it's up to the people to demand more from their government (and not just more tax cuts)

[JaySin]

IamKowalski, brilliant post!

Health care shouldn't be a luxury that only the wealthy can afford.