Quote Originally Posted by stoned88911
Have u ever heard about "THE AMERICAN DREAM"

And before someone says i dont know what it is ill go ahead and post a definition.

Socialism refers to a broad set of economic theories of social organization advocating state or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and the creation of an egalitarian society


Its not fair when some one works hard then gets the same benefits of some lazy asshole.

America is the right to choose what u want, not have goverment do it for u.
Thanks for the replies! And yes, I have heard of the American Dream, and it is also the reason my family moved there. I give credit to America for creating many opportunities to earn a lot of money and live a lifestyle which is unfathomable in other most other countries. The problem I saw first hand, was that not everyone can achieve this dream, that would be egalitarian... and the people who cannot realize this dream are left behind. We went from a 2 story 3 bedroom house on a lake to a 2 bedroom condo behind the ghetto when times got tough for us in the 1990's.

Now, when you talk about the state/collective ownership of production/distribution, that sounds to me more like communism. Here in Finland, the state runs the schools, health care, postal services(they own dhl here), transportation, gambling, and alcohol (i may have forgotten something). Otherwise, its a free market. And also here in Finland, if you don't work hard, you get paid less, but enough to survive. If you work harder or have your own company, you can make more money...

I just wanted to clarify that socialism, democracy, and capitalism can all co-exist, can they not?