Quote Originally Posted by IAmKowalski
There are a lot of reasons for this - first, realize that Americans don't actually know what they are talking about when they use the word "Socialist". Realize too that Americans have a very cartoonish and very black and white view of the world. Socialist and/or communist are the same thing in American speak - and what comes to mind immediately when you say the word "Socialist" to the average American is a grim militaristic society in which everyone is desperately poor, wears all gray, and stands in line all day for a loaf of bread while guards on every street corner hold machine guns and glare at people.

I wish I were exaggerating, but I'm not.
I would like to confirm this. I consider myself intelligent. Im college educated. yet, last week I spent two hours trying to find out what the fuck socialism actually is and why Obama was being called one. The conclusion I came to was it was just more hypocritical BS. Some things are ok to be sponsored by the gov't ...ie schools, welfare, disability payment. but others not... ie. health care. Ive had the opportunity to travel to a few parts of world. And it changed my outlook in life because it broke down the fallacies I was taught as a kid about America being the best and everywhere else inferior. I had a close friend attend med. school in a county with social medicine. he became very sick and was in ICU. Never paid a dime as a foreigner and as a med student said he had great care. How is this bad socialism yet I personally know four people on disability from the gov't and I dont think one of them really needs it. yet somehow, this is good socialism?

stoned88911 I think youre speaking in black and white. Not everyone can be a billionaire. you said it yourself.... brains and hard work. what if you have no brains? shitty luck? I also know smart hard working people that dont have much because they choose to have some level of morality. Morality can hold many people back from making massive amounts of money. Furthermore, I would argue that many athletes and modern day musicians dont have super high IQ's (but high earners)and some dont even have work ethics. For every LaBron James there is a Sabatian Telfare!