Why is socialism so bad?

[stoned88911]

Ur right i dont have insurance problems

Because im not lazy and i work and make a buncha money.

Im sorry u should get insurance or a job with insurance benefits.

And im so glad my goverment doesnt take my very hard earned money and give it to the person who stays home all day and watches tv. Becuase they deserve nothing from the goverment GET JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!

[stoned88911]

whatever the usa is doing is even more damaging because it's resulted in:

- $10.5 trillion national debt
- 45 million people with NO health insurance
- another 40 million people with inadequate health insurance
- substandard health outcomes compared to other developed countries
- substandard education compared to other developed countries

that doesn't mean the usa is a terrible place, or that i hate the usa...it means the usa government is not doing a very good job of protecting and promoting the public interest...it's up to the people to demand more from their government (and not just more tax cuts)

Sounds like usa has 45 million lazy people.

No reason to steal from the hard working.

[JaySin]

Sounds like usa has 45 million lazy people.

No reason to steal from the hard working.

You're statement is so full of BS.

I have several friends that work VERY HARD and even put in overtime whenever possible. Yet they can not afford health care or schooling because they need to pay for their living expenses. Yet the extra money they do make they give to their family because they are not greedy slobs. Now if only we could only see all of America as our family like we should, then everyone would have the chance to be healthy and educated and get a decent job.

People aren't lazy just cause they want to be. People are lazy because we put them there. America makes goals harder to obtain then they need to be. So even if someone is working really hard and making their way up, they are forced back down because of a medical bill. Why should people work and try to contribute to society if society doesn't even give a fuck about them or their health?

If you are going to try and fight how much of a good idea socialized health care and education is, maybe you should provide some useful arguments instead of some disgusting generalizations.

[stoned88911]

Please go to a socialist country.


Goverment is suposed to supply people wth diffence.

Not pay there bills, buy insurance, or wipe are butts.

Ya socialism sounds good, ya sounds sweet dont have to work as hard to get good things, why wouldnt anyone want that.

Oh ya if we do that, we wont have the largest military.

Im sure your not worried about it u didnt live threw ww1 or ww2 and neither did i.
But when ww3 comes, and dont kid urself it WILL HAPPEN, id rather have trouble paying for insurance then having to dig a hole to live in.

[IAmKowalski]

Please go to a socialist country.


Goverment is suposed to supply people wth diffence.

Not pay there bills, buy insurance, or wipe are butts.

Ya socialism sounds good, ya sounds sweet dont have to work as hard to get good things, why wouldnt anyone want that.

Oh ya if we do that, we wont have the largest military.

Im sure your not worried about it u didnt live threw ww1 or ww2 and neither did i.
But when ww3 comes, and dont kid urself it WILL HAPPEN, id rather have trouble paying for insurance then having to dig a hole to live in.

Wow. Just Wow.

[GrinKyle]

Please go to a socialist country.


Goverment is suposed to supply people wth diffence.

Not pay there bills, buy insurance, or wipe are butts.

Ya socialism sounds good, ya sounds sweet dont have to work as hard to get good things, why wouldnt anyone want that.

Oh ya if we do that, we wont have the largest military.

Im sure your not worried about it u didnt live threw ww1 or ww2 and neither did i.
But when ww3 comes, and dont kid urself it WILL HAPPEN, id rather have trouble paying for insurance then having to dig a hole to live in.

Are you in fantasy land?

Or do you actually think this way on a daily basis?

[thcbongman]

Question.. if Other countries who have socialist practices are so much better.. why are we #1 in GDP? Socialism directly impacts your ability to control the direction in which your life takes.

Case in point and I hope someone here can chime in to acknowledge as what i'm saying is true, because I'm sure everyone here who hasn't lived in the netherlands will call me a liar.. but here we go.

In the netherlands the government for the most part tells you where to live. If you have a 4 person household then you are told where to live. If your household downsizes to 2 people then you are moved right away to a smaller home.

Recently a friend of mine's grandmother lost her husband. Within 1 day she was notified that she would be being relocated to a smaller home.

When someone has rule over where you live then where is your motivation to aspire for more in life. A person could say that all their aspirations in life revolve around a person's home. To change it to their liking.. to update it.. to make it a comfortable environment for themselves. What aspiration do you have to make the money to do this when the government tells you where to live (taxes are also way high there too).

I love Europe.. I love visiting; but I wouldn't want to live there primarily for the number of social programs and fairly socialist governments there. I don't like being told what I can and can't do... which is the same problem I have with the direction the American Government is going. Our government is starting to get so bloated it's ridiculous.

Less government now please!

Were #1 in GDP because we have a lot of capital, a lot of resources and a ton of land. It has little to do with the social services that could be provided or how much the government controls.

If you look at GDP per capita, already two "socialist" countries beats the USA, Norway and Ireland. Both countries have mixed economies, welfare systems, and free education to everyone. Look at the countries slightly behind. Switzerland is one of the most capitalistic countries in the world, home to a gluton of multinational corporations and bankers, yet they offer a ton of social programs. The Netherlands, despite being told where they are housed have about $5000 less than Amerca per capita.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2004rank.html

I believe a capitalistic with elements of socialism can help American continue to prosper, plus re-focus on education and health and in the long-run it'll continue long-run prosperity. I believe the American government should pay for students that deserve it. Not only would it raise academic standards for institutions, but would inspire a population to focus on education knowing they have the opportunity to get an education for free without incurring a rack of debt.

And lack of choice? Most those school systems allow you to attend private schools like anyone else. No one is telling anywhere where to go to school or where they should be hospitalized. If you don't have the money, you really don't have an option have you? But it's better than nothing at all. So much for being told what to do. There are some restrictions when it comes to some social programs but they aren't so hampering as everyone makes it out to be. You have the choice to pay your own way.

[flyingimam]

Please go to a socialist country.


Goverment is suposed to supply people wth diffence.

Not pay there bills, buy insurance, or wipe are butts.

Ya socialism sounds good, ya sounds sweet dont have to work as hard to get good things, why wouldnt anyone want that.

Oh ya if we do that, we wont have the largest military.

Im sure your not worried about it u didnt live threw ww1 or ww2 and neither did i.
But when ww3 comes, and dont kid urself it WILL HAPPEN, id rather have trouble paying for insurance then having to dig a hole to live in.

hahaha :S2:

duuuuude!!! what kind of weed are u smoking, it must be some real strong sativa, share the secret with me

what u typed here sounds very paranoid, i mean on scale of 1-10, 1 being the most laid back or careless person u have known to date and 10 being the simpletons who stared at me while I was in the plane, thinking I'm a terrorist or something just cuz of my facial hair, my unibrow or skin color (that shit was as funny as it was annoying to me then) u stand at 11

[8182KSKUSH]

Ur right i dont have insurance problems

Because im not lazy and i work and make a buncha money.

Im sorry u should get insurance or a job with insurance benefits.

And im so glad my goverment doesnt take my very hard earned money and give it to the person who stays home all day and watches tv. Becuase they deserve nothing from the goverment GET JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds like usa has 45 million lazy people.

No reason to steal from the hard working.

Please go to a socialist country.


Goverment is suposed to supply people wth diffence.

Not pay there bills, buy insurance, or wipe are butts.

Ya socialism sounds good, ya sounds sweet dont have to work as hard to get good things, why wouldnt anyone want that.

Oh ya if we do that, we wont have the largest military.

Im sure your not worried about it u didnt live threw ww1 or ww2 and neither did i.
But when ww3 comes, and dont kid urself it WILL HAPPEN, id rather have trouble paying for insurance then having to dig a hole to live in.

I love it!:thumbsup:
You are probably better off talking to your plants though! The "True Believers" they are many here!
Sadly though, we already have socialist programs and have had them for some time. I have realized that we are on the fast track to this if someone doesn't step up in the next 20 years and straighten shit up quick fast and in a hurry. (And apparently McCain ain't the one to do it, but of course on the other hand you have...duhdaduah! So of course I will support McCain.)(Lesser of 2 evils, another thread).
I have never, in my life, ever, met anyone that attributes their life's success to any kind of "social, welfare program." Never.
Not ever.
You know, like, "Aw, thank you, thank you, I would like to thank so and so and oh yeah, I could have never made it to where I am today if it were not for my subsidized housing and welfare food stamps! Thank you big brother for "helping" me out.Golly, I could have never done it without you,"
and of course, Big Brother saying all the while,
"yes you are helpless, and you can't make it without my help, that's why it's so important to vote for me, the other guy is rich and he hates poor people. And he has all your money you should have, (if you actually worked of course) and you have no chance now, the rich guy has all the money there will ever be and there's none left for you yes!!!"
Does anyone not clearly see why it is not a good thing for the "people" to become dependant on the federal government?
How would you feel if the government legalized cannabis, but only goverment grown cannabis. They of course use a secret police to literally destroy any and all remnants of any other cannabis genetics, except for theirs, (which in the hypothetical scenario, sucks.) Then they make you go to one place, that is 100 times more crowded and slow than the post office if the people from the DMV were all filling in. And you get 1 gram, per day, that's it, because that's the way it is because that's what big brother says. Digg.
Everyone gets cannabis now if they want it, and everyone gets the same too, so there is no more "oh waa, I only get this and so and so gets that", everyone just gets the same, shit ass brick. Oh and did I mention the gram included seeds that were sterile and stems.
So is that what you want?
Of course the joke here is that even as a socialist republic we would still not legalize cannabis. But just a scenario folks could relate to.

[IAmKowalski]

I love it!:thumbsup:
You are probably better off talking to your plants though! The "True Believers" they are many here!
Sadly though, we already have socialist programs and have had them for some time. I have realized that we are on the fast track to this if someone doesn't step up in the next 20 years and straighten shit up quick fast and in a hurry. (And apparently McCain ain't the one to do it, but of course on the other hand you have...duhdaduah! So of course I will support McCain.)(Lesser of 2 evils, another thread).
I have never, in my life, ever, met anyone that attributes their life's success to any kind of "social, welfare program." Never.
Not ever.
You know, like, "Aw, thank you, thank you, I would like to thank so and so and oh yeah, I could have never made it to where I am today if it were not for my subsidized housing and welfare food stamps! Thank you big brother for "helping" me out.Golly, I could have never done it without you,"
and of course, Big Brother saying all the while,
"yes you are helpless, and you can't make it without my help, that's why it's so important to vote for me, the other guy is rich and he hates poor people. And he has all your money you should have, (if you actually worked of course) and you have no chance now, the rich guy has all the money there will ever be and there's none left for you yes!!!"
Does anyone not clearly see why it is not a good thing for the "people" to become dependant on the federal government?
How would you feel if the government legalized cannabis, but only goverment grown cannabis. They of course use a secret police to literally destroy any and all remnants of any other cannabis genetics, except for theirs, (which in the hypothetical scenario, sucks.) Then they make you go to one place, that is 100 times more crowded and slow than the post office if the people from the DMV were all filling in. And you get 1 gram, per day, that's it, because that's the way it is because that's what big brother says. Digg.
Everyone gets cannabis now if they want it, and everyone gets the same too, so there is no more "oh waa, I only get this and so and so gets that", everyone just gets the same, shit ass brick. Oh and did I mention the gram included seeds that were sterile and stems.
So is that what you want?
Of course the joke here is that even as a socialist republic we would still not legalize cannabis. But just a scenario folks could relate to.

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