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11-10-2008, 11:26 PM #11
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bailout plan may widen to more industries
"Straw man! The US does not require any business to provide paid vacations. Instead, the UAW has paid vacations built into the labor contracts themselves."
- not straw man...german automakers give their employees more vacation than american automakers...that means volkswagon has to hire more people
"Another straw man! The $34.80/ hr does not include the wonderful benefit package UAW members are also entitled to which is right around $35/ hr."
- that's not a straw man either...it's a fact that german automaker pay more per hour, and germany has stronger unions...according to the IMF, germany's unionized employees have benefits and bonuses too
"Labor cost per hour, wages and benefits for hourly workers, 2006.
Ford: $70.51 ($141,020 per year)
GM: $73.26 ($146,520 per year)"
- since then, the united auto workers union inked a deal to significantly reduce labour costs from $78/hour to $26/hour, and transfer almost $50 billion in health care benefit liability to the union, but i don't expect BMW and volkswagon to close their expensive unionized factories in germany and import their cars from america:
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/GM+says+UAW+contract+to+transfer+$46.7B+in+health+ care+liability+to...-a01610785359
"Try not to skew the facts next time..."
- yeah, nice chatting with you too! here's a little debating tip for ya: straw man has something to do with distorting your opponent's position, and attributing opinions to him/her/it that they do not hold
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