Welcome to socialism, boys and girls...

[apocolips31]

I believe when you live a police state it is called Fascism not Socialism. Which is exactly what Obama wants a police force just as big and well funded as our military. Sounds like the start of Fascism to me...

apocolips31 Reviewed by apocolips31 on 10-29-2008. Welcome to socialism, boys and girls... Has already started...the campaign will no longer give interviews to the station that employs this interviewer, which they painted as unprofessional. (she spent years under Peter Jennigs, I believe). I guess Biden should do like Osama, and just stick to giving those speeches, instead of fearing some tough questions from rogue reporters. So now that she angered the campaign, does anyone doubt we'll soon find out about the interviewers credit limits, her gynecological history, her Rating: 5

[JakeMartinez]

In bold you will find a universal truth.

You basically sum it up in the middle of your statement. Law's are all we really need, laws that punish fraud/theft/cohesion. Make laws that call for certain standards, and allow open competition to analyze. If further analysis reveals levels of fraud etc..., then proper action can take course. Moody's and S&P gave AAA ratings to what was actually high yield junk. That is fraud in my book. If firms were legally allowed to enter the market of investment analysis, then just maybe one might have called the bluff. Regulation basically gave away a monopoly, which is why over regulation is unnecessary.

Greenspan is right in saying firms will not regulate themselves. It would cost too much in light of the money they are already paying government (taxes) to regulate for them.

Laws won't help. They'll either subvert those laws or lobby against them because it's more profitable.

Laws don't stop behavior. Murder has been illegal in every civilized culture in history, but it still hasn't stopped people from doing it

[GoldenBoy812]

Laws won't help. They'll either subvert those laws or lobby against them because it's more profitable.

Laws don't stop behavior. Murder has been illegal in every civilized culture in history, but it still hasn't stopped people from doing it

The point is not to stop, it is to attempt to safeguard against. Fraud is only profitable if you do not get caught. Maybe a shift in resources allocated to fighting financial crimes from fighting drug crimes would truly help.

The federal government is attempting to regulte illlegal drug use, to as close to zero as possible. Has it worked? Nope, and is a good showing of how regulation fails most of the time. By regulating the amount of competition in the market place (giving 80% market share to 2 firms), has this eliminated the amount of ficticous practice? Nope, and is a good showing of how regulation fails most of the time. By allowing competition of choice (to do drugs or not do drugs) you effectivily place the burden of knowing what to do in a much more micro atmosphere where the cost and benefits can be sorted out on a personal level. If i spend 20 hrs a day smoking pot, i have very little time for other activities. But if i truly enjoy cannabis, i will most likely appropriate some of my time to its consumption. That means i will want to give up other things in order to cosume cannabis because of my value system. By allowing competition in the financial marketplace, you allow firms to do what they believe is the best way to legally produce profit. Giving lofty ratings might icrease profits initially, but other firms might desire to give a more accurate rating because they believe it will improve potential profits in the long run. In dong so, i have been given an alternative analysis to base my future and present investments on. By choosing one or the other, i cannot say that i was tricked into making an investment. Just like i cannot say the government tricked me into not doing something i enjoy, such as cannabis:jointsmile:

You might have heard the term transparency. A way to increase the transparency in financial markets is to allow for more open competition on all levels of analysis. To effectivily ensure this, the only regulation needed is to ensure that competition is achieved.

[maladroit]

"I believe when you live a police state it is called Fascism not Socialism. Which is exactly what Obama wants a police force just as big and well funded as our military. Sounds like the start of Fascism to me"

- if that's your definition of fascism, then you already live in police state with the largest prison population in the world:

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[apocolips31]

While we have a high prison population due to the stupid ass laws for cannabis. At least there isn't a military sized police force patrolling our streets. Want to go ahead and give them one more advantage? That is exactly my point they already are doing a good enough job putting people away. Why is a larger police force necessary, certainly not a military sized one.

[maladroit]

really? how many of the 2.2 million US prisoners are actually in prison right now for cannabis? i bet if you sucked everyone one of them out of prison right now, the usa would still have a much higher prison population than communist china

[silkyblue]

the gov just needs to help with health cost in America ONE GRAND FOR A Q-TIP IS silliness


put God back in the schools, take the AK47's out


Google Washington, DC, parties you will see what the politicians do with tax payers hard earned money

politicians dance on rooftops to jazz bands and swell sweet likor

tax payers money spent

[reefabuser22]

A fuckin men I am happy to see this site aint just full of Liberal ass gays.ha jk but yeah that IS socialism takn someones money and deciding what to do. Fuck I am homeless damn near and i dont want obama and his "tax cuts" or more fuckin welfare for people who dont even got a job. Im unemployed but dont plan on always dependin on the govt. Grow some will power and motivation and get your shit right. And quit usin bush as a scape goat. Our economy is where it is because of Clinton ( I love clinton) his shit had short term relief and now we are bailing out millions of people who got a loan for a house bc of Clinton. Obama is an elitist, would be racist if his ma wasnt white, he has good intentions i know this but he dont got the expirience to know the repricussions of his shit..... I hope i can swear on this site... but im sure someone said all this in the 80 pages of big ass replies.

[reefabuser22]

If you cant beat em join em. Yeah congress is fucked so go join congress and party with them. Dont hate cause they are living the life you and I wanna live. i understand they have a duty there but look... vote different ya know this really isnt fixable so quit bitchin and cope. Yeah politics been crooked obama or mcPain or Nader. People hate republicans for havin money. "McPain got 9 houses he doesnt even know how many he has" wouldnt you like to live like that??? aint that what i am goin to college for?? fuckin bums i would rather kill the middle class and keep a chance of comin up, then kill the upper class and turn everyone into a struggling check by check. This isnt some poor ass country and thats why immigrants come here. SOCIALISM = NAZI Party = Obama almost... I party, congress parties, we party.

[epxroot]

I have no problem bashing a candidate that has been bought, paid for, packaged and marketed under a false-hope prophecy.

Are there any candidates that haven't been? Honestly, both parties have been bought and paid for. It doesn't matter if you're a Repub, or a Demo, they both represent big business and have the interest of the people stuck somewhere in between the piece of gum they stepped in and their shoe.

I still get a laugh out of all you loyal Repubs and Demos. You all bash your fellow Americans and stand up for the people who are just outright stealing from you. It does not matter WHO becomes President this year. We will not see any change what so ever.