biggreen... ty for the troubleshoot but i believe i gave u all the needed info already... im not new to this so i understand whats important to be able to diagnose..... im now a little disenfranchized with starting seedlings, and if things dont seem to grow well in the first three weeks im now at the point where i'll just toss the plants, as its just not worth it for me to try and nurse it bak to health when i could start a new seed and it should theoretically surpass the growth of the stunted stressed seedlings within days.

so if you could all answer my questions this thread would benefit me a little more than playing politics like washington... sorry if i sound pissed but i am, my kid broke a really nice pipe of mine today, the world messed up! and people just never change.... so no offence to anyone, i appreciate your wanting to help, so i'll try again...

Will miracle grow seedling mix work with no problems?
What kind of bottled water can i use that i know i can trust and will work?
What kind of grow container should i be using... yes i used paper dixicups. is this problematic?

What kind of lighting can i not go wrong.... i have 100w CFL with 6500k. also a 400w mh and a 1000wHPS(which i have not used at all yet, i hope i will eventually but i need to get seeds growing first.

look through my previous thread from my previous attempts... i took some pictures but i wont be able to get them posted for a few day or until my gf installs the rigth software to upload them.

http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-pro...-seedling.html
TheXFactor Reviewed by TheXFactor on . i cant get seeds to grow? humidity 35-60% temp70-75 soil, happy frog nursery water 100watt CFL blue spectrum 400watt mh seedlings have been under MH from beginning of life... im now using a seperate space with a cfl to try and get them going. i also purchased some miracle grow seedling mix but i havent tried it yet.. im using little 2-3inch dixicups. Rating: 5