i cant get seeds to grow?

[TheXFactor]

humidity 35-60%
temp70-75
soil, happy frog
nursery water
100watt CFL blue spectrum
400watt mh

seedlings have been under MH from beginning of life... im now using a seperate space with a cfl to try and get them going.

i also purchased some miracle grow seedling mix but i havent tried it yet.. im using little 2-3inch dixicups.

they have 2 distinct looking problems, one strain hawaiiXhaze looks extremely deficient in nit. but i cant fert it... its almost 2 months old, 5 inches tall on its 3rd node but not a single leaf is fully grown.

the other are some female seeds a friend gave me... on looks okay but the leaves are curling down. BTW these 2 fem are still working on their 2nd node. at 2-3 weeks. both are curling to the ground,but one is kinda bluish, with doark blotches that die and dry and become brittle. this has happend on others and it cloesly resembles a Phosphorus deficency but they're soooo young how can this be.... what is a fool proof method to use if it is the soil or the water.

what type of bottled water can u not go wrong with... what kind of soil can u not go wrong with, what kind of light can u not go wrong with,,


ive grown many plants outdoors, using soil i just found lying around in the shed, with great results, flooding/animals being the only problem?


whos got input.

TheXFactor Reviewed by TheXFactor on 10-25-2008. i cant get seeds to grow? humidity 35-60% temp70-75 soil, happy frog nursery water 100watt CFL blue spectrum 400watt mh seedlings have been under MH from beginning of life... im now using a seperate space with a cfl to try and get them going. i also purchased some miracle grow seedling mix but i havent tried it yet.. im using little 2-3inch dixicups. Rating: 5

[BigGreen21]

http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-pro...anted-one.html

Just incase ya don't wanna copy paste:


H=Answer if you grow hydro or aero
C=Answer if you grow coco
S=Answer if you grow traditional soil
L=Answer if you grow soilless other than coco (Promix, Hyponex, SunshineMix)
R=Answer if you grow in RockWool
T=Answer if you grow in HydroTon
D=Answer if you run any type of automatic drip system, including into soil or soilless
E= EVERYONE needs to answer lol!


E-indoor or outdoor
E-soil, soilless, coco, aero, or hydroponic
E-specific medium
CSL-Soil type/brand
HCL-Hydro/aero/soilless system type
SCL-Anything you have added to the soil
SCLR-Soil or slab runoff pH
E-Water source
E-Source water pH
HRT-Source water EC (if hydro)
E-Age of plant
E-Type of fertilizer
E-Rate of application (if hydro, this is your PPM number, preferably after each component is added)
E-Lighting source and distance from plant
E-Air temperature (both day and night if you are running a dark period)
HD-Reservoir temperature
E-Air % Relative humidity
E-Lighting schedule
E-Type of ventilation your room has
TR-Did you pre-soak your media in pH corrected solution?

And some pics might help.

[Dutch Pimp]

im using little 2-3inch dixicups.

dixiecups are paper...I assume you mean plastic cups...16oz or bigger?..:wtf:

its almost 2 months old, 5 inches tall on its 3rd node but not a single leaf is fully grown.

what size pot now?

[Treetops]

Post pics so we can see....I for one would love to see it....
Thanks,
Treetops :stoned:

[TheXFactor]

biggreen... ty for the troubleshoot but i believe i gave u all the needed info already... im not new to this so i understand whats important to be able to diagnose..... im now a little disenfranchized with starting seedlings, and if things dont seem to grow well in the first three weeks im now at the point where i'll just toss the plants, as its just not worth it for me to try and nurse it bak to health when i could start a new seed and it should theoretically surpass the growth of the stunted stressed seedlings within days.

so if you could all answer my questions this thread would benefit me a little more than playing politics like washington... sorry if i sound pissed but i am, my kid broke a really nice pipe of mine today, the world messed up! and people just never change.... so no offence to anyone, i appreciate your wanting to help, so i'll try again...

Will miracle grow seedling mix work with no problems?
What kind of bottled water can i use that i know i can trust and will work?
What kind of grow container should i be using... yes i used paper dixicups. is this problematic?

What kind of lighting can i not go wrong.... i have 100w CFL with 6500k. also a 400w mh and a 1000wHPS(which i have not used at all yet, i hope i will eventually but i need to get seeds growing first.

look through my previous thread from my previous attempts... i took some pictures but i wont be able to get them posted for a few day or until my gf installs the rigth software to upload them.

http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-pro...-seedling.html

[TheXFactor]

dixiecups are paper...I assume you mean plastic cups...16oz or bigger?..:wtf:




what size pot now?

please dont assume, we all know happens when we do... u make an ASS out of U and ME

b/c u r wrong and yes i mean small paper dixicups.

the oldest ones were planted diretly into 6 inch pots. and never took hold... i think the happyfrog soil might be too heavy or its too wholesome and hasnt broke down enough. but its sussposed to grow tons of microbials and shit like that. Thats why im considering the miracle grow seedling mix which i think is much more peat, and perlite. and some other small amount ingredients. very basic.

so if anyone want to criticize how much of an A-hole i am, have fun, theres plenty to shoot at.. but if you want to help, i'll appreciate it very much.

[TheXFactor]

heres an idea i had but i dont want to bring any pests or anything of that nature into my grow area. is go to HD and find an oregano plant, or even a few, and check out the soils, the water and the air im working with, because maybe im crazy but i dont see anyreason as to why my plants keep dying..

[bluntwiz]

i dont think you will get any answers with that kind of attitude.
oh and btw, if you are not new to the game, then how come your seedlings keep dying on you?

enough said.

[Rusty Trichome]

so if anyone want to criticize how much of an A-hole i am, have fun, theres plenty to shoot at..

Ahh...I think I found your problem...

... ty for the troubleshoot but i believe i gave u all the needed info already... im not new to this so i understand whats important to be able to diagnose.

Seems to me that you could possibly be suffering from the most common plant ailment in the cannabis gardeners garden...optical rectitis. (having ones head so far up his ass, all he can see is his own shit)

So you are having problems with your grow, and you come here and ask us why. When given a simple task to help us help you, you go all bitchy on us. There is a valid reason you were asked to fill out the form. It's because too many "experienced" growers come in claiming they know their shit, when in reality they are clueless, and have fucked-up their garden.
If you want continued help here, likely it's best not to pretend you know more than you really know. Keep in mind...it's not our meds in jeopardy...it's yours.

Just fill-out the form, and an experienced gardener might be with you shortly.

In the mean time, transplant into larger pots with fresh potting mix. When slipping the first one out of it's cup...check the roots. If they're rootbound...that's your problem. If not...who knows? Your info is limited.

Also, I am quite certain the Happy Frog isn't your problem, it's top of the line shit. As with any medium, nute solution, feeding schedule...you learn to adapt with what you've got.

[stinkyattic]

There are many pieces of information that are on the form that you have not given.
I don't want to re-type the form so I'm not going to list them.

Just fill it out. I feel like I am having deja vu in this thread...