i started thinking about something stinky mentioned..... i overwatered my plants right after i planted them... and that stunted root growth, but when i look at the soil everything is telling me this should be great stuff, and it is, with everything i know about soil and good soil vs bad... minimal.. but when u see some good soil u know its good shit.

i think the next seeds i germinate depending how well the MG goes, but i would like to try the happyfrog again but not over water and just mist a little water on top and call it good. if not i'll just transplant into happyfrog once the plants have control or there space and become powerful. big picture stinky like u said..

ive been looking at the plants insted of the soil composer and the soil didnt look like it was breathing and would stay wet and a few i checked the root or replanted, the soil came off in big clumps and was very dense with few roots. the MG is great the 2 times i checked today with one i sprouted 4 days ago, i was under cfls, and i placed it under the MH and its quadrupled in size, another was completly curled down to the stem(the 2first leaves, but still green. with very small 2n node. after 12hrs so far under the mh, the leaves are straight, and double in size.... the others i transplanted today into mg. and we'll see its effect. so currently everything is in mg and comin back. imagine that.