palin's waist of $$$$

[Breukelen advocaat]

i call him that because that was his name until he entered politics.
to me, that makes it an affectation and vaguely dishonest.

my intent is also to be somewhat dismissive and derisive

I realize that is your intention, but it doesn't work in this case. Barry actually sounds better than Barack.

If he had used Barry as his name in politics, rather than his real name Barack, then some of his opponents would call him Barack as an insult.

[stinkyattic]

May I remind everyone that nicknames and given names each have their place; the ever-classy Mrs. JFK was Jacqueline when the situation required, and Jackie when it didn't. I've got no particular issue with anyone going by a shortened, affectionate version of their name in informal situations- it seems a silly detail upon which to dwell.

[dragonrider]

This whole thing is a PR fiasco more than anything, and it points to the mentality of people in politics, and the hypocrisy of campaigns.

McCain's whole pitch has been that he and Palin are different from the Republican pigs that have been wallowing around the stye and gorging themselves at the trough under Bush. He talked about the wasteful excesses of his fellow Republicans at the convention, and he said, "They elected us to change Washington, but we let Washington change us." And his campaign since then has been mostly about how he and Palin are a different kind of Republican, they are reformers who are going to eliminate waste.

This kind of thing goes completely counter to that argument. Maybe Washington can actually change a person before they are even elected to Washington? Or maybe Palin didn't change and that is just the way she really is.

[headshake]

he probably always went by barry because it sounds more white and less muslim and threatening. he probably only switched it to barack for politics because it sounds more powerful and commanding. i mean say it outloud, barry's in charge, or barrack is in charge.

not to mention it helps get the black vote. and probably the muslim vote somewhat. think about if he was going by barry. how many black people would call him a sell out and a cracker n***a. if it's good enough for your wife to call you that and your family and friends why can't the country call you that?

there are plenty of politicians that go by nicknames or accepted shortening of names of names. hell we got one in texas named kinky. the lady running against him wanted to get grandma put on the ballot. i'm pretty sure barrack wouldn't have been an insult if he was going by barry.

i go by a nickname, not my given, and i don't feel insulted when someone calls me by my given name.

-shake

[justanotherbozo]

I realize that is your intention, but it doesn't work in this case. Barry actually sounds better than Barack.

If he had used Barry as his name in politics, rather than his real name Barack, then some of his opponants would call him Barack as an insult.

possibly so, it doesn't change the direction he wants to take
us in and i for one am frightened at what will happen when we
have no-one in charge but liberal Democrats like Pelosi, Dodd,
Frank and Obama.

[JaySin]

So because I introduce myself to people as my given name instead of one of my nicknames, it is an affectation and vaquely dishonest? Sounds a little backwards to me.

[stinkyattic]

It would only be a dishonest affectation if you introduced yourself as The Honorable Reverend Doctor JaySin. lol. I fail to see how a nickname that does not imply advanced degrees or some other elevated status would be dishonest. Hell, I got one 6'4 buddy who we often call Shorty. I guess THAT is less than accurate...

[justanotherbozo]

It would only be a dishonest affectation if you introduced yourself as The Honorable Reverend Doctor JaySin. lol. I fail to see how a nickname that does not imply advanced degrees or some other elevated status would be dishonest. Hell, I got one 6'4 buddy who we often call Shorty. I guess THAT is less than accurate...

it must be just me.

it's like if Billy Joel decided to run for office under the name William
Joel, while it would in fact be his given name, it's not the name he
has always been known by and so, it would be an affectation and
therefore, dishonest.

and my calling him 'Barry' isn't the point anyway, it's just my way
of being somewhat derisive and dismissive, regardless of whether
others agree with me or not, which is a lot less nasty than the
things that have been said of McCain and Palin by many of the
members here.

some of the folks here have been down right nasty and mean spirited.

God forbid someone should question the anointed one,
they open themselves up for an extreme outpouring of
the most vile vitriol i've ever seen.

[Breukelen advocaat]

Goldwater isn't turning over in his grave - he was cremated. :thumbsup:

[justanotherbozo]

Goldwater isn't turning over in his grave - he was cremated. :thumbsup:

lol, now there was a 'Barry'