Quote Originally Posted by me399unot
I did a home test yesterday that tests down to 15ng, I think I almost passed. The directions said that if there were 2 lines it was a pass (no matter how faint the second line was) and a fail if there was only one line. There was a solid line and a very, very faint second line. So it looked like I was a very close pass.
Contrary to popular belief, the intensity of a line is not indicative of whether you are close to the cutoff level or not. To think so would be conjecturing, since home assays have no ability to yield a quantitative value (unlike the GC/MS). Home assays are simply a go/no-go test. A faint line in the 'test' region of the home assay is still a negative.

Quote Originally Posted by me399unot
Are you really sure that they test the way you said, they do the test that test for five major drugs types and they send the urine out to a lab and I dont get the results for 24-48 hours.
I had provided you a link to the DOT regs in post #8. Check out § 40.87 of the regs and see for yourself.

My wife was looking around yesterday on the internet and saw the new guidelines for the DOT drug test. I think it was on their site but I am not sure where she found it so I can not give a link.
You dont have to. Like I stated, I had already provided the link to the DOT regs in post #8.

It stated that they were changing the way they do the test because to many people were gaming the system by bringing in fake or clean urine.
Most of the changes had already went into effect as of 8/26/08. Only one change was postponed until 11/01/08 - the mandatory observed specimen collections for all follow up/return to duty cases. This change was postponed to allow for public comments on the new ruling.

The site said that you now have to drop your pants and underwear to your knees and lift your shirt to your chest and then do a complete 360 in front of the tester before pissing. If I can find that link I will post it here so you all can see it.
It must be understood that this procedure only applies to observed collections. And observed collections are still not allowed unless there is cause. The instances which call for an observed collection are outlined in § 40.67 of the DOT regs. Follow this link to § 40.67 : http://www.dot.gov/ost/dapc/NEW_DOCS...7_20080625.pdf
And when you read § 40.67 in its entirety, you'll discover the procedure of dropping pants to check for prosthetic delivery devices. No need to post the link.

they only make you empty your pockets, wash you hands and give you up to 4 minutes alone in the tightly locked down, private room, for you to pee in.
This is still standard procedure under § 40.61 and § 40.63 of the DOT regs. A locking bathroom door is not a requirement.
I can also see that it is only a matter of time before they adopt this new standard.
The new standard of the checking of prosthetic devices is in effect as of 8/26/08. But like Ive already said, this only applies to observed collections. And observed collections are still not allowed unless there is cause.

Keep reading and learning the regs from the link I had provided for you in post #8. And since youve stated that youre union, you should print up the DOT regs and forward them to your BA anytime the rules get broken at your expense.