Quote Originally Posted by daihashi
Her question would still be valid because there are many other people in her situation.
I can't believe I have spent as much time on this thread as I have --- it makes me feel like I've been sucked into the pettiness, shallowness, and irrelevance of the McCain campaign itself.

To respond to your point: Yes, the question in and of iteslf is a valid question. But posing as someone who you are not and claiming that your question applies to yourself directly is not a valid way of making a political point. And when that person is exposed to be a liar, it overshadows the value of the point they were tryng to make.

Frankly, I am amazed that the McCain people did not check Joe out first before they decided to make such a big deal out of him. They should have at least checked if the story was even true before they had McCain mention it over 20 times in the debate.

If the circumstances that Joe described really did apply to someone real (not Joe, obviously), doesn't it seem like the McCain campaign could have found a real person to use as an example? Not some made-up story? My feeling is that there are probably far fewer people who are really in the circumstances Joe described than the McCain campaign would like you to believe. Very few people will be hurt in any significant way by the Obama tax plan, and most of them are not the kind of people that voters would relate to the way they did to Joe. They could not find a real person as an example. That's why they glommed on to Joe, he was willing to SAY the Obama plan would hurt him, even if it is not true.

On a side note, a few posts ago I asked if there were any examples of Obama ever bringing Joe up in a speach by name. Today I heard the first example. Today Obama was saying something like, "I just LOVE Joe the Plumber. I love him so much I want to give him a tax break!" Then he goes on to make the case that the real Joe the Plumber, with his real income, not his fantasy income, would receive a larger tax break under Obama's plan than he would under McCain's plan. See how that works? That's how you use a real person to make a political point!