Joe the plumber

[psychocat]

Has anyone been following this story ?
Celebrity News Examiner: Joe the Plumber is a fake (he's related to the Keating Five scandal, John McCain's 'asterisk')

Keating Son-in-Law to Serve Prison Term - New York Times

psychocat Reviewed by psychocat on 10-19-2008. Joe the plumber Has anyone been following this story ? Celebrity News Examiner: Joe the Plumber is a fake (he's related to the Keating Five scandal, John McCain's 'asterisk') Keating Son-in-Law to Serve Prison Term - New York Times Rating: 5

[rebgirl420]

Who cares? I don't think thats the point.

I love how the media attacks this guy. It doesn't matter if "Joe the plumber" is a a registered plumber. The nickname was to cover and apply to your average working class Joe.

[MissDaMeaner]

I feel sad for Joe but when you misrepresent yourself to make a point you will suffer the consequences.

If Joe the plumber was what he said he was there would be no story and the media would look like fools.
BUT who looks like the fool now?

OK U win the media still looks like fools.

:s4:

[JakeMartinez]

Who cares? I don't think thats the point.

I love how the media attacks this guy. It doesn't matter if "Joe the plumber" is a a registered plumber. The nickname was to cover and apply to your average working class Joe.

True, but he approached Obama as if he was an average Joe, and the Conservative media outlets pounced on it as if it shows how upset the middle class is with Obama.

[inbud]

You all think Joe the Plumbbber wants to join Cannibis.com?
Seems they take anything to divert or make news. Seems the Issues are what they should be talking about.

The candidates NEED all the Joes to get out and Vote November 4, it's a Tuesday.

[issachar]

he's already become a moment of our pop culture too

the day after the last debate I saw a pretty nice joe the plumber shirt which I immediately bought, I consider it the "I shot JR" shirt of the decade:rasta:

now along with joe blow, joe dirt, and joe somebody the world's joes will have to deal with yet another nickname.... dammit

[dragonrider]

The point that McCain was trying to make with "Joe the Plumber" was that Joe supposedly claimed he personally represented someone who was going to be hurt by Obama's tax plan. That was his whole value --- he put a face on the issue, just a regular plumber guy who was going to be denied the American Dream. It was about Joe the person as an example.

So when the person Joe the Plumber who is going to be harmed by Obama's tax plan really turns out to the Sam the Unlicensed Plumber who actually benefits from Obama's tax plan, it does sort of invalidate the value he had to McCain.

When you put a real face on the people making more than $250,000 a year or the business owners whose businesses clear a net profit of more than $250,000 a year, it is not ordinary Joes struggling for the American Dream like this guy. Most ordinary Joes struggling for the American Dream like this guy do not clear $250,000 a year and would see a benefit from Obama's tax plan. 95% of American would see a benefit from Obama's tax plan. This guy actually puts a face on the people who would be helped by Obama's plan.

And now since McCain has thrust this poor bastard into the spolight, all this crap about his shady unlicensed business practices, unpaid back taxes, and indictied family members is coming out too. He is probably going to rue the day the McCain picked him out to be put on the national stage! Hel'll probably face some kind of legal action if he has been doing unlicesned contract work! That sucks, but he brought it on himself by lying on TV to make a bogus political point --- probably just didn't think it would go as far as it did.

[psychocat]

I can only really think of one thing , it's something my mother once said to me.
"Lies have a nasty habit of coming back and biting you on the arse".

[daihashi]

UPDATE: Joe the Plumber Not Related to Keating - Political Machine

To be fair I haven't read the article yet but it was one of the first google links that came up in a search.

[daihashi]

Robert M. Wurzelbacher, son-in-law of Keating, was 37 years old in 1991 when federal charges were filed against Keating. It appears that he has addresses in Phoenix and Coronado, CA.

The Robert M. Wurzelbacher of Milford, OH, a heavy donor to GOP candidates, is 83 years old and retired. They're not the same person.

There's probably a reason that this was not wide spread all over the news networks and the above is probably why. I'm surprised the nytimes haven't posted a retraction or update. :wtf: