HELP! look at the pics help me out here please!!

[projectinfo]

start over.. get better soil nutes..??

miricle grow nutes are 24 7 14

he doesnt have fox farm ... and other signs i should look for when looking for soil nutes cuz this guy is saying use the hydro nutes just in less quantity......

[daihashi]

start over.. get better soil nutes..??

miricle grow nutes are 24 7 14

he doesnt have fox farm ... and other signs i should look for when looking for soil nutes cuz this guy is saying use the hydro nutes just in less quantity......

Order your nutrient line off the internet.

Try to finish your plants; if nothing else it will be a very good growing experience for you.

During my first grow I made every mistake imaginable. It took me 3 months to get a plant to grow more than 4-6"; but I know why all my mistakes were mistakes and I am thankful for all the mistakes I made because now I know exacty what to do and what to look for when there appears to be trouble among my crop.. more importantly I know how to fix it as well.

So keep growing your plants and learn everything you can. Your 2nd grow will be much better.

[projectinfo]

theres only 3 plants so thats why soil no big contraptions cept the air/light am i doing this right now all im mmissing is the nutes am i correct??or would there be something elese youd do instead of soil, or maybe a feeding system orswitch to hydro or areo or coco or whats the best simlest easyest way to grow 3 plants with lowish budgeta dn the info already givin

[daihashi]

theres only 3 plants so thats why soil no big contraptions cept the air/light am i doing this right now all im mmissing is the nutes am i correct??or would there be something elese youd do instead of soil, or maybe a feeding system orswitch to hydro or areo or coco or whats the best simlest easyest way to grow 3 plants with lowish budgeta dn the info already givin

Just keep going with what you have and learn why problems happen... not just how to fix them.

I would continue with what you have. A feeding system is unecessary in soil.. hydro and aero are expensive to get started (the water pumps, air pumps, chiller systems, resevoirs, air stones..) and can become complicated if you are not able to monitor the resevoir twice a day (ppm/tds, PH, water temperature and aeration).

If you want to grow in hydro then DWC is often one of the cheapest ways to do this.

I personally grow in coco.. which has it's own issues; but in my personal opinion... it is the next best thing to Hydroponics without all the hassle; not quite as good but 2nd best.

Most of my current issues I have currently in coco stem from unstable genetics. The plants that didn't sprout all weird are looking beautiful/gorgeous.

With all that said.. learn how to grow in your current medium. Take this time to become a master of what you have. Whether you realize it or not.. if you continue down this hobby of growing you will eventually spend more and more money as you will find that your growing style will evolve.

[Weedhound]

the problem with hydro nutes is that the concentration is off compared to soil. Often times you will over feed your plants or burn them entirely.. secondly hydro nutes don't really have any chelating agents in them so they break down into salts.. which in turn gives you very bad soil chemistry.

I hate to say it, as crappy as miracle gro is.. but I would recommend miracle gro over hydro nutes for soil based grows.

That's not to say I'm telling you to get miracle grow, but that's to put things in perspective for you. If you can't afford Fox farms nutrient line then that's fine, and believe me I understand what it's like to be on a budget.. but your cheapest soil based nutes would be better than feeding them hydro based nutes.

Sorry Dai.....this part I completely disagree with. My hydro man (and he IS good) would cry if you said this to hiim.

Quality nutes.......miracle grow just aint them. The man who taught me to grow says hydro nutes are completely fine to use as long as you adjust ph to correct levels for soil.

[projectinfo]

Quality nutes.......miracle grow just aint them. The man who taught me to grow says hydro nutes are completely fine to use as long as you adjust ph to correct levels for soil.

how do you adjust the ph of soil?? dolomite lime to bring it to around 7?? and what is the cporrect level for soil?? its peat/vermiculite/lime/perlite micro and macro nutes in it which are probly gone now i flushed last ngiht cuz of the buildup there a few days ago

so from the dnf gro a/bhow much would i put in what ph of my soil 1/4....1/2? and is there any certain number of litres to give each plant or mix it up and water like i normally would....

[projectinfo]

baught schultz bloom builder plant food 10-54-10 for flowering stage... but back to my question above..

[daihashi]

Sorry Dai.....this part I completely disagree with. My hydro man (and he IS good) would cry if you said this to hiim.

Quality nutes.......miracle grow just aint them. The man who taught me to grow says hydro nutes are completely fine to use as long as you adjust ph to correct levels for soil.

The reason why I say is because you have to worry about too many micronutes.. and have too strong of a dosage a long with other things which can be a daunting task for someone who is just starting out; particularly salt build up due to a lack of chelating agent, but this was under the assumption that he would pick an organic nute that had a chelating agent in it; although I suppose he could've just dosed with Molasses but then further complicate things by adding something additional into his mixture.

For a person who has had this many problems getting his setup straightened out.. I strongly suggested for him to not run hydro nutes. Had the rest of his setup been in check and his only problem been his nutrient line then I would've suggested that he run 1/4 dose hydro nutes in soil as well as be sure to flush every 4 weeks.

I made the assumption that his hydro guy knew what was up with his situation. All to many times have I been in a number of hydro shops where the person absolutely has no idea what they are talking about.

So I guess I should add an addendum... I don't suggest *projectinfo* run hydro nutes in soil until he has had gone through 1 complete grow.. just to avoid complicating the situation that he's currently in.

[daihashi]

how do you adjust the ph of soil?? dolomite lime to bring it to around 7?? and what is the cporrect level for soil?? its peat/vermiculite/lime/perlite micro and macro nutes in it which are probly gone now i flushed last ngiht cuz of the buildup there a few days ago

so from the dnf gro a/bhow much would i put in what ph of my soil 1/4....1/2? and is there any certain number of litres to give each plant or mix it up and water like i normally would....

You adjust the PH of the soil by usig PH up/down in your nutrient solution that you mix and water until you get the desired runoff.

If your soil chemistry is fubarred then yes.. you could make a dolemite lime tea; but this starts to get complicated and you'll probably have to use a tea fairly often due to the fact that much of it will wash out with each watering. An easier solution would be just to transplant into a bigger pot; but only if you are close to utilizing most of the soil space in your current pot otherwise transplanting to a bigger pot would cause unecessary stress and would cause your soil to have moist conditions for longer than desired.


Again, the correct ph level for soil.. which I listed previously is 6.3-6.8

[projectinfo]

so "nutriant solution" is feeding them with the miricle grow or whatevrer i find which all i can see using is the 1/4 of the dnf or 202020 all purpose plant food or the miricle grow..... so adjust the ph in the food to 6.3-6.8 and keep watering and catch the runoff do a ph test till its 6.3-6.8 keep doing till its between those would i wory about over nuting again or salt buildup attempoting to get this fine balance between numbers??