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    Obama Breaks Down Why We Need Separation of Church & State

    So you're saying that if someone is speaking about what they believe as a religion that all the sudden that is pushing their view on you? Religion just like everything else is a opinion and everyone has the right to tell their opinion. I don't see how just speaking your mind and what you believe is in anyway forcing someone to believe that way as well. If that is the case then you will agree Obama was pushing his beliefs on everyone by simply giving a speech about some of his ideas(beliefs)? Unless of course there is a double standard?
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    #12
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    Obama Breaks Down Why We Need Separation of Church & State

    Using the podium of elected office to sell religious opinion is not the correct venue, and is at counter purposes to the job outline for that office.
    Great thread, great posts.

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    Obama Breaks Down Why We Need Separation of Church & State

    Quote Originally Posted by texas grass
    the way bush and palin talk they push it down our thoats, especially when on public stage our president told national television that god told him to go to war, ect.

    i guarantee if a catholic, musilim, or a buddhist, put as much religious speech on american tv, we would have all the evangelicals/southern baptist up in arms crying about how they are pushing their beliefs on us.
    werd....
    WT

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    #14
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    Obama Breaks Down Why We Need Separation of Church & State

    Quote Originally Posted by texas grass
    the way bush and palin talk they push it down our thoats, especially when on public stage our president told national television that god told him to go to war, ect.


    i guarantee if a catholic, musilim, or a buddhist, put as much religious speech on american tv, we would have all the evangelicals/southern baptist up in arms crying about how they are pushing their beliefs on us.
    kudos

    and we do have the counter story: COUNTRIES THAT HATE US, religions that hate us, we keep hearing this about islam and muslims. their extremist people are simply following their ultra conservative and extremist interpretation of their religion. same way bush says god told me to go to war, they say god tells us to kill the infidels... same shit on either side, just 2 different religions and beliefs, same formula though.

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