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03-12-2005, 02:36 PM #1OPSenior Member
US detains youngsters at Abu Ghraib
By BBC News
Republished from BBC News Online
Beware the children
Children as young as 11 years old were held at Abu Ghraib, the Iraqi prison at the centre of the US prisoner abuse scandal, official documents reveal.
Brig Gen Janis Karpinski, formerly in charge of the jail, gave details of young people and women held there.
Her assertion was among documents obtained via legal action by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).
The Pentagon has admitted juveniles were among the detainees, but said no child was subject to any abuse.
Brig Gen Karpinski made her remarks in an interview with a general investigating the abuses at the prison.
??Innocent civilians??
The transcript of her May 2004 interview was among hundreds of pages of papers obtained by the ACLU through the Freedom of Information Act.
In one case, witness statements among the released documents allege that four drunken Americans took a 17-year-old female prisoner from her cell and forced her to expose her breasts and kissed her.
In another documented incident, troops are alleged to have smeared mud on the detained 17-year-old son of an Iraqi general and forced his father to watch him shiver in the cold.
Brig Gen Karpinski, who was in charge at Abu Ghraib from July to November 2003, said she often visited the prison??s youngest inmates.
She said in her interview that she thought one boy ??looked like he was eight years old?.
??He told me he was almost 12,? she said. ??He told me his brother was there with him, but he really wanted to see his mother, could he please call his mother. He was crying.?
She said the military began holding children and women at Abu Ghraib from mid-2003. She did not say what the youngsters had been locked up for.
In her interview with Maj Gen George Fay, she also said intelligence officers had worked out an agreement to hold detainees without keeping records.
The Pentagon has acknowledged holding so-called ??ghost detainees? on the basis that they were enemy combatants and therefore not entitled to prisoner of war protections.
Brig Gen Karpinski said US commanders were reluctant to release detainees, an attitude she called ??releasophobia?.
In her interview, she said Maj Gen Walter Wodjakowski, then the second most senior army general in Iraq, told her in the summer of 2003 not to release more prisoners, even if they were innocent.
??I don??t care if we??re holding 15,000 innocent civilians,? she said Maj Gen Wodjakowski told her. ??We??re winning the war.?
The ACLU has sued US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on behalf of four Iraqis and four Afghans who say they were tortured in US facilities.
Mr Rumsfeld has stated that neither he nor his aides ever condoned or authorised abuses.
Seven soldiers have been convicted by US courts martial in connection with the scandal at Abu Ghraib. Two others are still on trial.
PeaceHerbaholic00 Reviewed by Herbaholic00 on . US detains youngsters at Abu Ghraib By BBC News Republished from BBC News Online Beware the children Children as young as 11 years old were held at Abu Ghraib, the Iraqi prison at the centre of the US prisoner abuse scandal, official documents reveal. Brig Gen Janis Karpinski, formerly in charge of the jail, gave details of young people and women held there. Her assertion was among documents obtained via legal action by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). The Pentagon has admitted juveniles were among the Rating: 5
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03-12-2005, 05:06 PM #2Senior Member
US detains youngsters at Abu Ghraib
you meant to say...
US 'liberates' youngsters at abu ghraib...didn't you?
you leftist america hating terrorist sympathizer liberal saddam loving communist!down with censorship! - http://www.ronpaul2008.com/
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03-12-2005, 05:32 PM #3OPSenior Member
US detains youngsters at Abu Ghraib
you meant to say...
US 'liberates' youngsters at abu ghraib...didn't you?
Oh yeah.....shit! how stupid of me.
Peace
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03-12-2005, 08:22 PM #4Senior Member
US detains youngsters at Abu Ghraib
who cares if they are young??no one.
\"even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value,marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.\"
William F. Buckley Jr.
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03-12-2005, 09:10 PM #5Senior Member
US detains youngsters at Abu Ghraib
and as for the lawsuit,it is almost as funny and irrevalant as the aclu itself.
\"even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value,marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.\"
William F. Buckley Jr.
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03-13-2005, 01:10 AM #6OPSenior Member
US detains youngsters at Abu Ghraib
who cares if they are young??no one
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03-13-2005, 04:21 AM #7Senior Member
US detains youngsters at Abu Ghraib
Originally Posted by amsterdam
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03-13-2005, 04:42 AM #8Senior Member
US detains youngsters at Abu Ghraib
He goes with what his mainstream republican news sources tell him and then calls the rest of us gullible sheep.
I prefer him over muslim-jihad-conspiracist-christian Torog though.
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03-13-2005, 03:03 PM #9Senior Member
US detains youngsters at Abu Ghraib
i don't watch the news at all?i am a blogger who gets his news from iraqi bloggers,american bloggers,egyption bloggers,lebonese bloggers.i never watch the news ever.and most are a far cry from republicans.the daily kos sure isnt and i read that everyday.
\"even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value,marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.\"
William F. Buckley Jr.
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03-13-2005, 03:04 PM #10Senior Member
US detains youngsters at Abu Ghraib
your a good guy to nullific!and i still dont care how old they are.the youngest is 15.
\"even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value,marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.\"
William F. Buckley Jr.
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