What do you think?

[Psycho4Bud]

To me it is grossly offensive that McCain would have a pastor deliver a prayer that is clearly denominational and actually DISPARAGES other religions! And then it is even more offensive that he prays for McCain's success rather than a blessing on the country as a whole. And of course the most offensive part is how he challenges God to step up and support McCain so God won't appear weak in comaprison to other Gods! What an ASS!

So how do ya feel about the good Rev. Wright?

Have a good one!:s4:

[dragonrider]

So how do ya feel about the good Rev. Wright?

Have a good one!:s4:

I don't like Wright either.

Obama has disavowed Wright's message and cut the ties. Did McCain disavow this message? This is a guy McCain had do the invocation at his rally! Wright is guilt by association, but this is someone speaking for McCain at his rally! I think that McCain actually giving this guy the stage and having him speak at the rally puts it in a different class.

[maladroit]

whut is an invocation? isn't that just a fancy word for prayer? it sure looked like everyone was praying at that mccain rally...i've never seen anything like that outside of a theocracy...it's creepy...does it happen before every political rally? is it a common practice?

obama rally invocation:
YouTube - FAMU Obama Rally Invocation

[Psycho4Bud]

I don't like Wright either.

Obama has disavowed Wright's message and cut the ties. Did McCain disavow this message? This is a guy McCain had do the invocation at his rally! Wright is guilt by association, but this is someone speaking for McCain at his rally! I think that McCain actually giving this guy the stage and having him speak at the rally puts it in a different class.

The ONLY reason that Obama dumped Rev. Wright was because it was hurting him at the polls. Until then he was just "that crazy ol' uncle" that he couldn't disavow no more than the Trinity Church which he also dumped after that.

With Rev. Wright, William Ayers, Louis Farrakhan, etc...you'd think that Obama supporters wouldn't want to bring up affiliations with other people.

Have a good one!:s4:

[maladroit]

i think obama should have stuck by rev wright (right or wrong)...he looked like a pussy after the repubs shamed him into turning his back on his preacher...we don't see palin running away from the people who say nutty things in her church, even when she's actually on the altar with them

[dragonrider]

whut is an invocation? isn't that just a fancy word for prayer? it sure looked like everyone was praying at that mccain rally...i've never seen anything like that outside of a theocracy...it's creepy...does it happen before every political rally? is it a common practice?

obama rally invocation:
YouTube - FAMU Obama Rally Invocation

Yes, an invocation is a prayer.

I agree, I personally do not like to see a prayer at a non-religious service, but it happens at some kinds of events. I've seen them even at official county board meetings, but they are non-denominational enough to not offend any particular religious group, except for atheists who don't want to see any kind of prayer at all. I do not know how common they are at rallies. I could sit through a non-denominational invocation, even if I didn't like it much, but if I had been at this McCain rally, I would have walked out in disgust.

[happiestmferoutthere]

I'm just curious what peoples reaction to your post if you replaced 'redneck' with some other disparging term for another race.

Such as "Sp**" for mexicans, or the N word for black people, or "Ch***" for asians.

You may not realize it but using negative comments in combination with a term (redneck) that you obviously view as bad is not very becoming. It's actually distasteful.

FYI I am not a redneck; hell I'm not even white. :hippy:

I live in an area of 90% demographically white. I am surrounded by hate and ignorance. It wears on me sometimes. Believe me... They are self professed rednecks. They wear that title proudly.

[psychocat]

The mix of politics and religion is a dangerous one. IMO they should never share the same stage.

I hate the whole idea that to win an election you have to bad mouth your opponent, if you're worthy of winning then you shouldn't need to. Unfortunately it seems to be a growing trend amongst all groups to try to distract from thier own shortcomings by pointing out those of others.

[daihashi]

I live in an area of 90% demographically white. I am surrounded by hate and ignorance. It wears on me sometimes. Believe me... They are self professed rednecks. They wear that title proudly.

I'm aware of that; but the context in which you used the term was anything but friendly. Borderline derrogatory... and add ignorance to the mix and it changes it from a positive meaning (self professed rednecks... or even more similarly Black people who refer to each other as h) to something entirely negative and wrong.

Aside from that there are people of all mixes that share the views of the people you were referencing. Ignorance is not isolated to one group of people.

You can find ignorance in the Obama crowd also.

A more accurate/correct statement would've been to say "some supporters in the McCain arena seem to reek of ignorance".

You wouldn't of isolated anyone out there; and it would've reflected much better on you.

My point was the irony in your statement and you trying to display the ignorance you saw in the McCain rallies.

[happiestmferoutthere]

I'm aware of that; but the context in which you used the term was anything but friendly. Borderline derrogatory... and add ignorance to the mix and it changes it from a positive meaning (self professed rednecks... or even more similarly Black people who refer to each other as h) to something entirely negative and wrong.

Aside from that there are people of all mixes that share the views of the people you were referencing. Ignorance is not isolated to one group of people.

You can find ignorance in the Obama crowd also.

A more accurate/correct statement would've been to say "some supporters in the McCain arena seem to reek of ignorance".

You wouldn't of isolated anyone out there; and it would've reflected much better on you.

My point was the irony in your statement and you trying to display the ignorance you saw in the McCain rallies.

Gotcha.:thumbsup: Some supporters in the McCain arena seem to reek of ignorance and I found it somewhat offensive. In my opinion.
Did I go too far again? I'm good at that.:stoned: