thanks for the info dooobster really good info. I have a friend at a greenery it said it would provide some decent light not that great but it would give it warmth. When i fell the CFLs its like no warmth at all. I went back and measured them this time its just an inch an a half. I eyeballed them before. I have hanging light i just moved it so it was out of my way so i could get into the box I think im gonna get another one it s working pretty good. I have a shit load of light bulbs around my house for some reason its like we bought home depot out of lights. Hopefully i can get the same results as your plant:jointsmile: