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02-13-2009, 11:14 AM #51OPSenior Member
White Widow and Hindu Kush grow with Amazon system
Hi again.
It's looking pretty fine here now. All White Widows are develeping roots like mad, white as snow, and have started to veg.
The K2's became a bit of a problem though. Since I got them from a friend and he clones into dirtplugs that's what I got them in and those plugs fitted nicelly in my 2inch pots so I just put them in. However, having drenched dirt around the stems of the plants all the time in the aero system didn't make them very happy so I cut took them out, cut the fabric holding the plugs togethere and rinsed the dirt from the roots loosing some root tips but not too much. Then I put them back planted like the Widows, in leca only. Just use some coco on the top to block some light from reaching the roots.
All in all it looks great though and I am very excited over this grow.
20 clones are in the cloner as well so in 10-15 days I have a new batch and worst case I replace with one of them if the K2 or any other plant wont make it, would be a pity though to get one plant in out of sync with the others. It will have a hard time fighting for light by then.
Puffzter
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02-15-2009, 12:31 PM #52OPSenior Member
White Widow and Hindu Kush grow with Amazon system
Update with a few pics.
The K2's are in trouble. I did loose some root tips when I took them out of the jiffies (dirt plugs) but there were plenty still. They seem to have been stunned but I hope they will bounce back the coming days or they are toast.
For the rest it's going perfectly like I planned, roots developing fast, plans starting to veg etc.
I am running sprinklers 24/7 after having talked with a really good (and nice) grower who also use Amazon systems.
Humidifier is keeping air about 30-35%.
My motherplant has bounced back from the 36 clones I have been taken from it the last 4 weeks. Not bad for a bonzai I have to say. The clones in the cloner is about to root, a friend is gonna pick them up on thursday but I will keep a few as back up until I know I have 16 healthy plants in the Amazon.
That's it for now.
K2's are the 3 plants on the back left. Not very happy atm.
Roots, very visible that the K2's are in trouble from under here.
Mom, clone area
Puffzter
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02-16-2009, 01:39 PM #53Senior Member
White Widow and Hindu Kush grow with Amazon system
does that Amazon just start clones or does it go the distance, Puffzter? :hippy:
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02-16-2009, 02:13 PM #54OPSenior Member
White Widow and Hindu Kush grow with Amazon system
Originally Posted by Shovelhandle
No it goes the distance, its a flowering system. Just harvested 238g wet (45g dried) from one pH damaged clone with root rot in the system in a 2" pot. :P It was a testrun checking for the limits in temperatures and pH for the roots in a system like this.
It's quite commonly used in the UK but more and more in rest of Europe, I am from Sweden but ordered the system from UK after having seen a lot of logs poping up using them on European forums. It fits perfectly in my tent also but I did have problems in the first run. Roots need to be cool, pH bounces around a lot also before you learn to keep it steady. Now I know all this and therefor I have big hopes for this.
The 3 clones you see on the pictures that havent rooted were rooted a few days ago but I got them from a friend and in jiffies (soil plugs) and that was no good in an aero system since the stem was constantly in contact with wet soil so I had to try to get them out of the jiffies but that cost some root tips and they still haven't bounced back from that.
If they don't very soon I will replace them with WW clones, I have 20 mor rooting as we speak in my aero cloner.
You can see that on one of the pictures above.
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02-20-2009, 12:21 PM #55OPSenior Member
White Widow and Hindu Kush grow with Amazon system
So, 4 plants isolated which will have to be changed.
3 K2s and that's a shame. They did not bounce back from being cut out of the jiffys. I thought that wouldn't be a problem at all. One WW also just started growing out of the blue, it started developing a healthy rootsystem and then stopped dead in it's tracks.
But I have clones ready to put in their place any day now so should be ok. Made a bit of an arena though. Put all 4 dieing plants in the middle and that's where the new clones will be, Should make for best light distribution for my situation.
Here you go.
Vegg
Roots
Puffzter
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02-23-2009, 11:46 AM #56OPSenior Member
White Widow and Hindu Kush grow with Amazon system
Plants are coming along nicelly and all that made it are vegging except one. It has a healthy white rootsystem but still keep growing seedling leaves rather than real, big vegg leaves like its sisters. All plants are from same motherplant.
Anyway, some rootporn. The plants in the middle are getting replaced as I get rooted clones to put in there. 2 to go.
Puffzter
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03-01-2009, 02:11 PM #57OPSenior Member
White Widow and Hindu Kush grow with Amazon system
Last day vegg today.Got some new clones in at least but now I have to flip.Gonna be interesting to see how barely vegged clones are gonna compare to prevegged plants. Anyway, the biggest ones are closing in on 16 inches and look like beautiful plants. Others are not as vigourus but are gonna make it fine. This time it's all about getting through with stable pH and temperature at the roots. Normally I keep these numbers between 5.4-5.8 and temperature for the roots between 18-21 Celsius. (about normal roomtemperature)I also got in contact with another Swedish grower and got a lovelly Nirvana Papaya with proven genetics from him that is now a few hours under the HPS/day on it's way to become my second Bonzai mom.
So tomorrow is day one 12/12.Puffzter
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03-03-2009, 02:23 AM #58Junior Member
White Widow and Hindu Kush grow with Amazon system
Did You receive my information sent to you??????????
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03-03-2009, 09:46 AM #59OPSenior Member
White Widow and Hindu Kush grow with Amazon system
Yes I saw it and there has to be easier ways for you to buy weed than trying to order it from Sweden man. In whatever case, find another Swede.
About the OP:
Plants are in their 2nd day of 12/12 now and looking fine.
I did fuck up slightly and left the sprinklers off for 90 minutes once a few days back and that did cause some mild root rot but the plants look normal and keep vegging so I'm not too worried about that at this point.
I am keeping a very close eye on all numbers concerning the enviroment this time around and it's keeping quite steady at:
Temperature: 27 deg Celsius (81F)
Root temperature: 19 deg Celsius (66F)
Humidity: 44%
pH: 5.5-5.8
ppm: 1000
Today I will change the water in the Amazon after lights on at 3pm Swedish time. Then I will start nuking them with flowering nutes at around 100% och the Hesi hydro Schedule. That will give me around 1200 ppm.
I will then do what I did in my coco-grow and up the ppm week by week until week 6 reaching about 1600-1800 ppm and after that slow it a bit again during week 7 and 8. I'll flush last 2-3 day, an aero doesn't need a long flush.
Harvest seems consistantly to be day 63 or very close to it for my genetics and enviroment.
Puffzter
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03-03-2009, 09:38 PM #60Junior Member
White Widow and Hindu Kush grow with Amazon system
Originally Posted by Puffzter
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