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[Torog]

Althought I don't agree with your choice of words, I agree that Islam is essentially a peaceful religion (although, in my opinion, religion in itself breeds hate).. Homosexuality is not wrong and not a 'sin'. Iraq was on the agenda for a long time. And America (in my opinion) is not the greatest nation in the world... in my opinion, all 'nations' are equal, any other opinion would be racism. Perhaps if you specified something like "America is the most technologically advanced" or "America is the richest" etc etc, then there would be some truth to it, but technology and money dont equal greatness.. in fact, quite the opposite. sorry, im stoned, i dont even know if im making sense

Howdy Ghosttoker,

Until Islam drops the requirement for muslims to slay infidels,it cannot be considered a peaceful religion. Unless a nation,guarantees and respects,the rights of the individual,they will not be equal to America,or any other nation,that does. That's not racism,it's plain , simple fact.

It's not possible,for you to make sense,as long as you subscribe to the illogic and insanity of the liberal mind-set,a mind-set,that carries with it,an inherent impulse,towards self-destruction. Why else,would the Left,be so hell-bent on aiding and abbetting,the enemies of Freedom ?

[Sinsemilla Jones]

I tell you what-if you hate America so much..why don't you leave ? There's probably a Canadian immigration workshop,near where you live. Do America a favor,and don't have a dual citizenship..please,by all means,denounce the country of your birth and your citizenship...........

.............Until Islam drops the requirement for muslims to slay infidels,it cannot be considered a peaceful religion. Unless a nation,guarantees and respects,the rights of the individual,they will not be equal to America,or any other nation,that does. That's not racism,it's plain , simple fact.

It's not possible,for you to make sense,as long as you subscribe to the illogic and insanity of the liberal mind-set,a mind-set,that carries with it,an inherent impulse,towards self-destruction. Why else,would the Left,be so hell-bent on aiding and abbetting,the enemies of Freedom?

And if they don't agree with you they are an enemy combatant?
I don't think Ghost wants to aid and abet anyone but lovely young ladies!

I just love how you decide what other people believe.

Do you believe in slaying all homosexuals just because your Lord commands it in your Bible?

If so, Until you and Christianity drop the requirement for Christians to slay homosexuals, Christianity cannot be considered a peaceful religion. Unless a religion guarantees and respects the rights of the individual, blah, blah, blah.....plain simple fact.

If not, shut the fuck up.

[Torog]

And if they don't agree with you they are an enemy combatant?
I don't think Ghost wants to aid and abet anyone but lovely young ladies!

I just love how you decide what other people believe.

Do you believe in slaying all homosexuals just because your Lord commands it in your Bible?

If so, Until you and Christianity drop the requirement for Christians to slay homosexuals, Christianity cannot be considered a peaceful religion. Unless a religion guarantees and respects the rights of the individual, blah, blah, blah.....plain simple fact.

If not, shut the f*ck up.

Howdy Sinse,

There ain't no call for killing homosexuals in the Bible.. Christians are required to love the sinner..and hate the sin..there's no need for killing homosexuals,but as a Christian,I hope that I can lead them to Christ..and they can repent of their sins and be saved..it is Islam,that calls for the death of homosexuals-not Christianity.

You proclaim:"If not, shut the f*ck up" ...I say-ain't it a daggum shame,that I have sworn an oath,to protect your freedom of speech..and you seek to deny me mine. I think that you're just another spoiled,un-grateful youngun..that expects everything to be handed to ya-on a silver platter. Are you even grateful..for the basics of food,shelter and Life ? Many folks,don't even have those simple blessings..yet you probably take them for granted.

[Sinsemilla Jones]

There ain't no call for killing homosexuals in the Bible.

If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
-Leviticus 20:13

Death is also called for sorcery (Ex. 22:18), adultery (Lev. 20:10), cursing one's parents (Ex. 21:17), and sacrificing to another god (Ex. 22:20) among other offenses.

So, will Christianity (and Judaism) cut that stuff out of the Bible, or will you SHUT THE FUCK UP about some crap in the Quoran that most sensible Muslims don't believe?

[GHoSToKeR]

Torog, I dont know where you got that from, but I in no way "subscribe to the illogic and insanity of the liberal mind-set,a mind-set,that carries with it,an inherent impulse,towards self-destruction."

I have my own mindset. I'll summarize it for you.

I detest violence of any sort, whether it be a fight in a bar, or war.

I hate racism and prejudism. This includes hating homosexuals, hating Christianity, hating Muslims, etc.

I hate all organized religions. Just as you 'love the sinner, hate the sin', I dont hate religious people, just the religion itself, whether it be Christianity, Islam, Judaism, etc etc. I am not prejudist against these religions, I just despise organized religion as a whole.

Now, maybe it does say in the Quoran or whatever that Muslims have to kill anybody who is not Islamic. But like Sinsemilla said, it also says in the bible that homosexuality is punishable by death. Now, %99.9 of Christians would not kill a homosexual just because of their sexual orientation, but im sure there are some who would, just as there were groups of Christians who took part in killing African-Americans in the past just because of their skin colour. Now, because some Christians partake - or would like to - in this kind of thing, it doesnt mean that the Christianity of today is a violent religion, because most people ignore the violent parts (like homosexuality being punishable by death, as I just said). This is the same for Islam. Most normal, law-abiding, average Muslim people do not go around killing anybody who is not of the same religion, even though they may be 'instructed' to. They dont, they just ignore it and live peacefully.

So, if both Christians and Muslims are ordered by their religions to be violent, but most Christians and Muslims ignore these commands and live a peaceful life, then you can't differentiate between the two. Either they are both violent, because the religious text they live by commands them to be, or neither of them are violent, because the majority of the population of both religions ignores these violent commands. Which is it to be? A violent Christianity, or a peaceful Islam?

[Torog]

If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
-Leviticus 20:13

Death is also called for sorcery (Ex. 22:18), adultery (Lev. 20:10), cursing one's parents (Ex. 21:17), and sacrificing to another god (Ex. 22:20) among other offenses.

So, will Christianity (and Judaism) cut that stuff out of the Bible, or will you SHUT THE F*CK UP about some crap in the Quoran that most sensible Muslims don't believe?

Howdy Sinse,

If Jesus doesn't call for it..and He don't..the Ten Commandments,are what I'm supposed to uphold.."Thou Shalt not kill",is why Christians don't follow the edicts of the Old Testament..and are now followers of Christ and the New Testament.

All muslims are instructed to lie and to decieve infidels..if acting "sensible" is a part of that charade..then that's exactly what they will do..until the moment to slay them-presents it's self. Islam,is actively murdering infidels..last time I checked,homosexuality,is not a capitol offense in this country-like it is in Saudi.

I will continue to express my beliefs and opinions..and if you don't like it-you're welcome to come on down to Texas..and try and shut me up

Like Clint Eastwood said.."feelin lucky punk ? Go ahead-make my day !"

[Torog]

Howdy Ghost,

You say:" So, if both Christians and Muslims are ordered by their religions to be violent, but most Christians and Muslims ignore these commands and live a peaceful life, then you can't differentiate between the two."

I most certainly can distinguish between the two-Islam is based on the ravings of a terrorist pedophile..a mere mortal,characterized as a prophet,whereas my Faith,is with Jesus Christ,the Son of God.



" Either they are both violent, because the religious text they live by commands them to be, or neither of them are violent, because the majority of the population of both religions ignores these violent commands. Which is it to be? A violent Christianity, or a peaceful Islam? "

Since Jesus Christ came down from Heaven..Christianity changed from the Old Testament to the New Testament..Islam has made no such changes and is becoming the 'religion',that draws every deluded,violent nut on the planet and gives them justification for using violence of the most brutal nature..like beheading of infidels,a cherished and honored practice of muslims,since the inception of Islam.

You know what I find funny and weird ? The way that liberals hate to be called liberals..heck-I don't mind being called a conservative..y'all can even call me a redneck hick..it ain't gonna git my panties in a wad,like it does yours.

Why don't you be a man and define where you stand politically ? It's pretty obvious,that you ain't conservative..there's a Left,Middle and Right..which are you ? I took a political test one time,and I found out that I'm in the middle of the authoratative Right.

Have a good one....

[Button Basher]

Yo Torog. I've been tempted to reply to a lot of your racist/homophobic/generally insulting posts and threads but usually bail out in the end, simply because it's not my place to judge your views. Particularly in the fact we are of different countries and cultures. I also notice a lot of your views are based on your religion and thus again, I don't wish to impose (I was christened as a baby, but obviously didn't make the choice).
In England, homosexuality is embraced and accepted as a totally natural thing and everyone is indeed treated equal. We have a growing muslim/hindi culture that is also widely accepted, obviously we get the occasional prick that refuses to live with it but then what country doesn't?
My point is you obviously love your country and (like most Americans) express your pride in the fact it is (much like ours) a free country. What I don't understand is if America is supposed to be the land of freedom (or however you want to put it), why do Americans like you, rich in discriminating opinions, refuse to accept gays or muslims and actively put them down as if they are the enemy?
A free country (like the UK for example) does what it says on the tin, everyone is treated equally and if they're not, it IS racist and it IS homophobic and shit gets done to sort it out. I'll make the assumption you've never even set foot on European soil recreationally, were you to come to England and experience this authentic, equal society, would you be disgusted or offended by it? Because in your eyes, it's exactly what your supposed to have back home.
I'm aware your religion opposes gays, doesn't that mean your just contradicting yourself. If your a man that loves freedom, you believe in freedom for everyone.

It's a straightforward question, no insults attached. Will you answer it, or does the opinion of a "euroweenie" matter not to your American ego?

[Torog]

Yo Torog. I've been tempted to reply to a lot of your racist/homophobic/generally insulting posts and threads but usually bail out in the end, simply because it's not my place to judge your views. Particularly in the fact we are of different countries and cultures. I also notice a lot of your views are based on your religion and thus again, I don't wish to impose (I was christened as a baby, but obviously didn't make the choice).
In England, homosexuality is embraced and accepted as a totally natural thing and everyone is indeed treated equal. We have a growing muslim/hindi culture that is also widely accepted, obviously we get the occasional prick that refuses to live with it but then what country doesn't?
My point is you obviously love your country and (like most Americans) express your pride in the fact it is (much like ours) a free country. What I don't understand is if America is supposed to be the land of freedom (or however you want to put it), why do Americans like you, rich in discriminating opinions, refuse to accept gays or muslims and actively put them down as if they are the enemy?
A free country (like the UK for example) does what it says on the tin, everyone is treated equally and if they're not, it IS racist and it IS homophobic and shit gets done to sort it out. I'll make the assumption you've never even set foot on European soil recreationally, were you to come to England and experience this authentic, equal society, would you be disgusted or offended by it? Because in your eyes, it's exactly what your supposed to have back home.
I'm aware your religion opposes gays, doesn't that mean your just contradicting yourself. If your a man that loves freedom, you believe in freedom for everyone.

It's a straightforward question, no insults attached. Will you answer it, or does the opinion of a "euroweenie" matter not to your American ego?

Howdy Button Basher,

First off,let's git one thing straight-I have no fear of gays..but I do fear the harm that they do to society and the traditional family,and the confusion that they instill in young minds in order to advance their agenda of equality,for a lifestyle that's counter to the natural human cycle.

I am concerned for England,they recently declared,that they are no longer a Christian nation,and such is reflected by no longer viewing homosexuality as a sin,even going so far,as to silence Christians with threat of penalty and arrest-if they dare voice their opinion in public..that ain't a free society.

England,is in danger of becoming an Islamic state,because y'all are "embracing "the rights of muslims,even above those of your own citizens..y'all can't critisize muslims in public any more,but you allow them to hold public gatherings,where they call for the violent overthrow of the British goverment.

You ask: "I'll make the assumption you've never even set foot on European soil recreationally, were you to come to England and experience this authentic, equal society, would you be disgusted or offended by it? "

Nope..I haven't been to England,I do have some distant relatives there,but I doubt that I'll ever go and visit them. Well..I reckon,that I would be disgusted,if saw 2 fellers holding hands or kissing,and I would be offended that I can't say anything about it in public,I reckon,that I'd be disgusted and offended,if British folks were supporting the muslim jihadists and cheering over 9/11. I reckon,that a Texan like me,would be treated badly for who I am and where I come from,and my conservative Christian views,would land me in hot water-real quick. I'm about as politically incorrect as you can git-and England,is all about political correctness..yup-I don't reckon that I'd be treated equal at all. But I'd try and give y'all the benefit of the doubt.

Have a good one...

[Sinsemilla Jones]

I dunno, sounds like an Old Testament, Jehovah type of thing.

All muslims are instructed to lie and to decieve infidels.

Islam is based on the ravings of a terrorist pedophile.

ALL Muslims, ALL, every last one, you've spoken to ALL Muslims to confirm this?
And who does this instructing?
And if all Muslims lie to infidels, wouldn't the Muslims who disclosed this be lying?


I guess if one wanted to twist things, you could say,
"America is based on the ravings of a slave holding sexual predator."

But you could quite accurately say,
"America is based on the genocide of the American Indian and the enslavement of the African American."

Does that make America inherently evil?

Judge not lest ye be judged.

Let you who are without sin cast the first stone.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Seek ye the truth and the truth shall set you free.

Yes, I can see the great influence Jesus has had on you.