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    #11
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    Yahoo! Main Page, Palin guilty of Violating Ethics

    Quote Originally Posted by daihashi
    This is something that bothers me.. and honestly as soon as I heard the circumstances surrounding this situation I had a strong feeling she was guilty.

    She claims it was for budgetary reasons? You would think that for her own political safety alone she would've avoided this guy as much as possible and fired someone else if it was truly a budget issue.

    Palin is definitely guilty of this. Makes you wonder how often this happens in the general populations workplace. Probably more often than we'd like to think.

    There's a saying.. "it's who you know" I guess the same is true when getting fired. Poor guy (brother inlaw).. family matters should stay family matters and out of the workplace.
    The ex-brother-in-law is still on the force, it was Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan that was fired.

    Have a good one!:s4:

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    #12
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    Yahoo! Main Page, Palin guilty of Violating Ethics

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
    The ex-brother-in-law is still on the force, it was Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan that was fired.

    Have a good one!:s4:
    Who was fired because he would not fire said ex-brother-in-law. Anyway you look at it, it boils down to the same thing. Palin wanted to fire her brother-in-law.

    Doesn't matter how you paint it.

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    #13
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    Yahoo! Main Page, Palin guilty of Violating Ethics

    What the Troopergate Report Really Says -- Printout -- TIME

    a more in depth report of how things went down, it looks like Palin herself kept her hands relatively clean and had her husband do most of the gruntwork, which is probably why she will likely get little more than a slap on the wrist

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    #14
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    Yahoo! Main Page, Palin guilty of Violating Ethics

    Quote Originally Posted by issachar
    What the Troopergate Report Really Says -- Printout -- TIME

    a more in depth report of how things went down, it looks like Palin herself kept her hands relatively clean and had her husband do most of the gruntwork, which is probably why she will likely get little more than a slap on the wrist
    Thanks for the link.. I'll be sure to give it a read when I get a chance

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    #15
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    Yahoo! Main Page, Palin guilty of Violating Ethics

    I didn't see that anyone has posted this yet. I downloaded the entire pdf. from the Alaska State Legislature Main Page:
    The Alaska State Legislature

    It's an interesting read. Just click on the ***Legislative Council Investigation Report*** under "What's Happening?" to download.

    I, for one, am getting tired of reading summaries and interpretations... so I went for the actual report. Been experiencing the spins lately. :stoned:

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    #16
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    Yahoo! Main Page, Palin guilty of Violating Ethics

    Quote Originally Posted by daihashi
    Who was fired because he would not fire said ex-brother-in-law. Anyway you look at it, it boils down to the same thing. Palin wanted to fire her brother-in-law.

    Doesn't matter how you paint it.
    Maybe it "doesn't matter", but there is evidence that the ex brother-in-law Wooten is dangerous, as well as an abusive husband and father. The story below has allegations, "that he had Tasered his stepson; driven a cop car while holding a beer...... shot a moose without a permit (charges which resulted in his suspension for five days without pay as a trooper).....might have submitted a questionable workers' compensation claim."

    The Palins had filed numerous complaints against Wooten while Sarah was a private citizen, which apparently wasn't enough.

    His union said his behavior was not "job-related".

    He sounds like a bad cop to me, and they're often the hardest to control - especially with a powerful union in their corner.

    Palin Warned to Stop Disparaging Sister's Ex | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008 | Newsweek.com

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    #17
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    Yahoo! Main Page, Palin guilty of Violating Ethics

    oh yes a left hand monkey wrench indeed

    let me get this straight
    the bro in law needed firin' i will agree with any ass hole that will taser his own son will taser me for smokin herb
    the sherif guy who didnt fire him should have been fired for not firin the asshole with the taser
    but palin should be fired for firin the sherif guy for political reasons.

    good god my head is goin to explode

    we need a left hand monkey wrench to beat a whole shit load of people in the head with

    p.s. i do know that he was not a sherrif

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    Yahoo! Main Page, Palin guilty of Violating Ethics

    Quote Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
    Maybe it "doesn't matter", but there is evidence that the ex brother-in-law Wooten is dangerous, as well as an abusive husband and father. The story below has allegations, "that he had Tasered his stepson; driven a cop car while holding a beer...... shot a moose without a permit (charges which resulted in his suspension for five days without pay as a trooper).....might have submitted a questionable workers' compensation claim."

    The Palins had filed numerous complaints against Wooten while Sarah was a private citizen, which apparently wasn't enough.

    His union said his behavior was not "job-related".

    He sounds like a bad cop to me, and they're often the hardest to control - especially with a powerful union in their corner.

    Palin Warned to Stop Disparaging Sister's Ex | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008 | Newsweek.com
    Asshole or not.. Last I checked Palin had an executive office, this was a legal/judicial matter. At best she should've called for review through the Alaska Court systems; taking it up to the state supreme court if needed.

    I'm not saying he probably didn't deserve it, but her reasoning doesn't match what officially happened. Secondly she over extended her authority over personal conflict.

    I believe everyone here knows which side I lean on; and i have to say this is a messy situation and a conflict of interest. It was a mistake on her part to have involved herself the way she did.

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    #19
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    Yahoo! Main Page, Palin guilty of Violating Ethics

    A couple things I noted from the full report (which was read late last night and I can't remember 100%):
    Yes. Trooper Wooten shot a moose without a valid permit, but the person with him did have one. Wooten then went to a Palin relative (father or in-law?) to have the moose butchered. It is suggested that the relative knew the moose had been shot without permit, but proceeded anyway. The Palin's wanted charges to be pressed on Wooten, but were upset when talks began that their relative could be caught up in prosecution.
    I believe Todd Palin was also trying to get him investigated for a false injury compensation claim, because Todd surveilled him and took pictures of Wooten snowmobiling. I'm pretty sure the report states that Wooten was given permission to do so by a doctor.
    I think someone in the Palin's or the Governors office was filing complaints that Wooten was either dropping off his kid at school, or waiting to pick them up while on duty too. This was investigated and he had obtained permission to do so, because of his schedule.
    Crazy part of the report which I think is toooo funny/ironic:
    Walt Monegan went to the Governors office to have her sign an Alaska State Trooper card for an event that they were supposed to attend. Palin later cancelled her appearance because (if you can believe it) the photo on the State Trooper card was none other than Trooper Wooten. The guy she wanted fired. Haha. Monegan had never even seen Wooten, so he had no clue. What are the odds?
    Anyway, figured I would share.....
    P.S. I'd say, for Gov. Palin's sake, they should stop talking about it publically... saying he is a dangerous Trooper. Until he is charged with something criminal, that shit is defamation of character. Now, I'm not saying he's Trooper of the Year... but he seems to have been cleared of whatever dumb shit he's done so far.
    - BUT!!! From someone who has seen behind the Law Enforcement curtain first hand... there aren't many that don't have dirty hands. Why do you think most of them wear gloves?

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    Yahoo! Main Page, Palin guilty of Violating Ethics

    Quote Originally Posted by daihashi
    Who was fired because he would not fire said ex-brother-in-law. Anyway you look at it, it boils down to the same thing. Palin wanted to fire her brother-in-law.

    Doesn't matter how you paint it.
    Then why is he still working and why wasn't this a priority of the next Public Safety Commissioner? Apparently at first, Walt Monegan was stating that he was never contacted about firing the brother-in-law then later on he recanted his story. Something just doesn't add up here....

    Have a good one!:s4:

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