Quote Originally Posted by justanotherbozo
for those that object to 'guilt by association', if you think those associations
are no big deal, how come you're not offended by his lieing about those
associations? isn't that a big deal? doesn't it bother you that, if he were just
another guy applying for a government job, he wouldn't pass the security
clearance? shouldn't the man we elect to the most powerful job in the free
world have some integrity? or is being a pretty speaker enough?

Obama is a gifted speaker, a rousing orator promising to save you from the big
bad Bush! the problem is, it hasn't been Bush that's been the biggest problem
these last 8 years. and i'm not saying that in defense of Bush, i don't like him
either.

the fact is, it's the Democrats who are responsible for this financial crisis that
we're all living through right now, with Dodd and Frank leading the way.
and considering that, in just 3 years, Obama has taken more money from Fannie
and Freddie than every other politician except Dodd who's been taking money
from Fannie and Freddie for 20 years, and, considering that 2 of his top advisors
were top executives at Fannie and Freddie, well, i just wonder what we don't
know.

if Obama gets elected, we are in big trouble! he's proven himself to be a liar!
Lies are a non issue. Neither side tells the whole truth, therefore this point is practically invalid. People never seemed to have the slightest problem with Bush's bold faced lies for both terms in office, so I don't see how it's a problem now. And yes, being a pretty speaker is much better than just having a pretty face (see Palin). Also, you say it hasn't been Bush that's put us in this spot over 8 years, you are correct. It's been Bush, the Republican Congress, and the Democratic congress. MY GOD! There's plenty of blame to go around! I'm astonished! If Obama gets elected, we have a chance to not SUCK to most of the world. If McCain get's elected, we just start sticking barrels down everyones throats, drilling for oil we that SHOULDNT EVEN STILL BE USING BY NOW. If anything, I think Obama lies less than most politicians. McCain probably even lies less than most, but I think it's just because he can't seem to get a strong, clear message through, let alone keep his campaign from being in total shambles lately.