OKay here is the update I topped to get them all to about 10" I was scared as hell being I barely know what I am doing(no dr. greenthumb):i feel stupid:. I made sure the ph was good to go and they are still on grow nutes that I just put in yesterday, I raised the lights to about 2' above the tops because I am using the reflector blanket and I did not want the babies to get too hot. I also ghetto rigged my fan to blow on the lights and move the air thru the leaves hopefully that works to keep the temp down and provide air flow. I keep the closet open most of the time so they should be okay. I have now set the timer 4 12/12. Oh i also trimmed the huge fan leaves I hope that was okay to do, also for a test run I took 2 tops and basically put them in a flower pot with soil and water that came out the res which had grow nutes lets see if that works for clones. They are right ontop of the res to get light with the rest of the babies. Herbie I will try to get some pics for u soon okay:thumbsup:.

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