Israelis kill 1010 children in 8 years

[DTRave420]

[quote=Breukelen advocaat]Although I do not care for any religions, it's undeniable that the Jews have done a lot of good for the world, and they've been in the Middle East for a very long time. I don't happen to think that it's a very good idea to be surrounded by people that hate you, for religious reasons, but they've been through worse.

America, and much of Western Europe, feels that Israel is an ally in this region - and after the historic treatment that the Jews have had over the centuries, including the Holocaust and other genocide in places other than Israel, I can't blame them for taking advantage of the support and opportunities.


I agree...The surrounding 22 Arab countries are 640 times larger than our ally,Israel...Israel must have our support to defend itself from people whose favorite lines are "death to Israel","death to America",and "God is great"...
My father(RIP),believed in Israel's right to exist...He donated a Luger he brought back from WWII to Israel during their struggle to become or remain a state...He was from Breukelen also...
The Israeli's irrigated a sandy desert and turned it into paradise...

[rebgirl420]

It is slander and bias because it is only one side of the story Flyingiman.

The author of this thread posts about Israel and how they "martyred" all of these Palestinians as if all of these Palestinians were just babes in the woods. What about all the Israelis who were "martyred" from suicide bombers and all that jazz from their Palestinian (and other) Arab neighbors?

Like I said in my first post, the Israelis don't just air raid villages for the hell of it.

[illuminati]

America has, does and will continue to kill COUNTLESS people.

Religion has, does and will continue to condone killing, and continue to divide us.

Money has, does and ALWAYS will continue to be a driving force behind killing.

Consumerisim has, does and will continue to be the driving force of money.

Nationalisim has, does and will always set the stage for war.

Warfare will continue to kill us, driven by all of the above and more.
















so whats the point of reporting on killing?
Fundementally we are all just killing ourselves anyways right?















whats the point?

[flyingimam]

It is slander and bias because it is only one side of the story Flyingiman.

The author of this thread posts about Israel and how they "martyred" all of these Palestinians as if all of these Palestinians were just babes in the woods. What about all the Israelis who were "martyred" from suicide bombers and all that jazz from their Palestinian (and other) Arab neighbors?

Like I said in my first post, the Israelis don't just air raid villages for the hell of it.

i believe this is a misunderstanding.... to best of my knowledge the OP "copied" the text from a news source which i believe is biased towards Israel and its actions.

This is how most middle eastern press talk about the issue and martyrdom as u may have noticed already, holds a very special place in islamic world... now being taken advantage in brainwashings of these suicide bombers killing unarmed civilians... u may see, the trend is not just against jews or israelis, in iraq, they "martyr" themselves to kill innocent iraqis just so they have caused chaos for whatever reason that may serve those people ordering these bombings on top's interest.

That is why I always like to see articles with sources so they can weighed fairly...


The fact that both sides have had senseless casualties is not acceptable to me. It's not about martyrdom, but i betcha its hard for any westerner to find unbiased news articles regarding israel vs. palestine from their source who wont use the words like "martyrs"

This is where my problem is with public view on this issue...

NO ONE EVER GOES BACK TO THE ROOT CAUSES, THEY JUST DONT!
why does this whole issue is an issue in the first place and truly in the first place not by just viewing the history from the point where UN was formed... thats not the beginning of history!

i bet a lot of people supporting Israel dont even know the true factual history of creation of state of Israel and thus just view all those opposing israel in any way as anti-Semites

really, why don't we ever hear about how many civilians die in a missile attack that was aimed to kill 1 suspected militant, the same way we hear about 1 mad man running a bulldozer in streets of some israeli city to kill civilians

u see, bias exists all over the place... its just pointed towards different directions... so i really dont mind and dont care for that matter for the rhetoric of the articles in a serious way... sure i may get offended by some or have my own feelings, but as long as the game is played this way with everyone propagandizing their own bias and agendas, i see it as fair game

we (or Israelis or NATO in Afghanistan) kill 1 or 2 militants along with buncha unavoidable civilian deaths and we say "US military or IDF killed 8 jihadists or insurgents or suspects"

i would not be surprised if in the same manner we or israelis are all called infidels and the Arab/Muslim side casualties are all called martyrs by the non-western media... its just media & propaganda wars serving different audiences... similar to what we see in liberal & conservative news about candidates here... some just say BS crap about their hated candidate and some keep using certain words and keep repeating them to reinforce their subliminal messaging... still we hear that Obama is a Muslim which only speaks to how limited some people's news sources are

refuting the sources of information one doesn't like, will only play against one's very own intellect and analytical power. then "others" will make the decision for them by feeding them one way propaganda as "news" or "information" while it is all selected and sometimes even fake info

we just never hear the opposite side around here so we get surprised when we see such articles... while our foxnews and cnns and abcs are broadcasting in all 5 continents

anyways, I would like to see the source of this article while i already guess its from Iran's english only state news agency called presstv judging by the rhetoric... or it could be other middle eastern networks

none of this biased rhetoric will change the facts that children and civilians are dying on both sides and most of the time Palestinians are sympathized with by non-American media than Israelis due to the definitely more advanced & protected situation of Israelis

dont doubt that killing "an Israeli" for any1 from outside this state is way way harder than killing 100 Palestinians by Israel from 500 miles away, and thats a contributing reason to why Palestinian casualties are sympathized with in such a rhetoric because they are literally defenseless whether at personal, local or greater levels

I do not condone any of these civilian killings as they are done out of desperation and revenge and rage on both sides. regardless of what u call them, terrorists or martyrs depending on your agenda... a lot of these people who die are just civilians... both sides' extremists view all of their opposite side people as enemies of god and humanity and terrorists that must be killed

which only highlights why more people to the middle are needed in politics of both sides and including supporters of them (Like US & Iran)

mediation can do wonders if done in a proper way, but i see that many people just tend to stick with one extreme or another to associate themselves with a "side"