Quote Originally Posted by Tokerx
Actually, he looked kinda like he spanked you. You seemed to just blow a lot of hot air around and try to act like you know what your saying while screaming socialist. Having to make a statement like you just made there more then likely means you're not exactly correct in you observation of FR's talking points. Seems nothing he says or shows you can change your closed mind at all anyway. Hmmm, now where did we hear something about that before?

So, do you support a bail out package that rewards failure? If so, how is that not socialism if the government buys the banks, wall street, and my home? LOL, your worried about health care when there are way worse things going on atm. If the car companys can't pay back the "loan", or the banks, or who ever, what happens then? Who owns what then? The real question about socialism is where is all this going to end? How much will our government buy up? If they can adjust the price of my house down for bad times, will they then adjust it up for good times? You are crying for the government to help you while screaming socialist? Does that really make sense to you? It makes no sense to me at all. Maybe you could explain it a little for me.

Toker
Opinions vary:jointsmile:

The government bailout is a little too encompassing to consider US actions socialist. The world markets are collapsing. The US is not in as bad of a position then other countries (the UK has higher leveraged ratio defaults). Thursday night (Friday in Japan), the Nikki dropped nearly 10%. This is all very bad, therefore government intervention is needed because it is their actions that have led us to this field. Had markets been allowed to fall and rise at their own speed and way, a massive bubble such as the one we now all face would not exist. One of the contributing factors of the great depression was the fact that world wide market collaboration did not exist.

In almost any other scenario, i would loath government intervention, but the cost is just to great at the present time. I do not want to see mass people starving, living in the slums, mass suicides etc... By not having Universal Health Care, the scenario described will not take place.