Sad plants need some cheering up

[ozzyleven]

I thought It was a nute problem but my mind is shying away from that because I have not feed those 2 plant within a week ( I have six, the rest are fine) I only feed every week or two since the soil is so rich, I use the 1tsp per gallon which is the "most plants during early growth-600ppm/es1.3 dosage, which I think is low since it is in latter growth, I could be wrong. I am going to get a more accurate reading for the soil and the water PH up today. Thank you

ozzyleven Reviewed by ozzyleven on 11-01-2008. Sad plants need some cheering up I was wondering if anyone could help me out. First time growing in soil. I am using FF Sea forest blend and the seedlings are currently in 4â?� peat pots. The oldest ones are about 21 days, the youngest 14 or so. pH is about 6.8 for both soil and my tap water. I water sparingly once a day, when top inch goes totally dry. Once, I used about half the recommended dose of Neptuneâ??s harvest for seedlings, but have since stopped after some forum reading. The plants are under a 600w HPS Rating: 5

[ozzyleven]

what size pot do you suggest? they are in 5gal.

[ozzyleven]

oh ya bio live was in question, It sounded like good stuff, thoughts?

Contains fish bone meal, fish meal, k-mag, kelp meal, root zone, endo-ectomycorrihizae, humic acid, and alfalfa meal

application-1tbs per gallon of soil -I have 2tbs to 5 gal since they are not heavy feeders

[Weedhound]

If you can't move to bigger pots you'll need to flush your plants to restore proper ph. Again......Stinky's thread is about flushing your soil is what you need. I don't care HOW MANY ferts, boosts, etc etc etc you pour into your pots....if your ph is off your plants will either starve or burn.

[ozzyleven]

OK...Iam suprised nothing is occuring to the fan leaves only the branch leaves(normal??)I have one of the cheap metal pobe ones- just purchased the paper test strips (pHydrion). Sorry about talkin about nutes, just was trying to say I wasnt adding alot. But I was curious how to flush, I read stinkys post and didnt see. I do have a bottle of clearex, should I run a bunch of water through or use water and clearex, please enlighten me! Iam also worried that the Fox Farms soil is so heavy It will trap alot of water and maybe produce root rot or drown the roots (maybe Iam over thinking) that worrys me about the run off Ph test and flushing.
Sorry to ask so much just want to do everything to the best It could be. Thank you!

[Weedhound]

Hmmm.........you need to flush....no doubt about it imo. You can use regular tap water and if you are trying to RAISE ph then ph your tap water to 6.2. If you are trying to LOWER ph then make your tap water to 6.8.

My personal feeling is that they are burned from overnute and that's what has thrown off your ph. Generally you will need 3-5 x the amount of your pot of water to flush with. I do my soil plants in the bathtub if I have to flush them. If you have them in 1 gallon pots you will probably need to flush with 3 gallons of ph correct water before you have gotten rid of the crud inside.

Once the water coming out the bottom is in normal range; water with 1/4 strength nutes at the correct ph and let the plant dry out. Overwatering your plant ONCE (as in flushing) won't kill your plant with root rot etc. HOWEVER.....you might want to consider getting a good product like Cannazym which helps prevent root rot. As you are discovering.....if the roots aren't happy....your plant won't be either and it's really that simple. You also must make sure that you have adequate drainage in your pots so that drowning/suffocating the roots will not occur.

Take care of your roots!!

[Weedhound]

Two thoughts......its occurring in the higher leaves because they are where the plant is sending whatever it is fed. It's not trying to grow fan leaves at this point......it's trying to grew NEW leaves and that new, sensitive growth is what will be affected first; good or bad.

Second thought.....strictly my personal thought/opinion. Thank god your ph IS off....or you'd have burned them to death with overnute already. The ph locking out some of your nutes is most likely what has kept them from frying too much already..

Fix both.....ph AND overnute.

Good luck.

http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-pro...hy-how-do.html

[ozzyleven]

I checked my tap water with the ph strip it reads 7 if not a little over, can I check the soils Ph with out checking the run off- still not sure if I will kill the plants with too much water since they are in heavy soil. I thought it could be over nute also at first, but the plant is still pushing out fan leaves at top, they look fine and alot of the branch leaves do too, its just on about 6 of them. wouldnt the fan leaves that are being produced show burn? not trying to argue anything just curious. didnt see how to flush properly in that post,guessing run alot of water through and not use any of my clearex I have read it earlier it is informative. first indoor soil so it worrys me. Thank you!

Things that I would like to know
-can I add enough water for checking runoff without harming plant in heavy soil
- can I check Ph of soil with strips without run off-how?
-newer growth isnt affected, nor is alot of growth
-Am I over analyeing things

[ozzyleven]

Im bad didnt see the post about flushing thank you! Thats kinda what I thought just wanted to make sure

[Weedhound]

If you were a hydro grower I would tell you to lower your total nutrient solution and that would solve your problem easily. Soil is harder in that respect.....once it's IN there, then it STAYS there and creates problems until you fix it.