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    #11
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    The Forecast

    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenBoy812
    You would have to look at the production possibilities curve, in which opportunity cost is limited to maximize efficiency. A third wave economy in theory generates the majority of its net exports from such ventures. At some given level, it would be more costly to import instead of domestic production.
    Ummmm This is all gibberish to me.....I was thinking more like an answer like "We will have to dig big holes in the Rocky Mts and fire up 40-50 year old factorys in Pittsburgh Pa or Youngstown Oh. and once we get Steel,Theres an old AMC Plant in Mich that we might get to build Armored Personell Carriers.'
    In Other Words We Can't because all the Stuff We Need To Make These Things Has been Shipped Overseas.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenBoy812
    Alcoa, the US's aluminum gem, is all throughout Europe and Asia.
    Again a lot of good that does the US in case of Naval Blockade or Supply line Disruption.

    I live in Wichita Ks.....Wanna see how fast an entire local economy would dry up if there is no way to get Aluminum? (Especally in Wartime) Wichita is home to ALL of the Company's That build All the Aircraft for the USAF....Aircraft Plants,Head Offices,R&D its all done Here or In Seattle.......In short no Aluminum,No Planes....

    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenBoy812
    Maybe i should have been more specific.
    Ummm Yeah!

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    #12
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    The Forecast

    Quote Originally Posted by The Figment
    Ummmm This is all gibberish to me.....I was thinking more like an answer like "We will have to dig big holes in the Rocky Mts and fire up 40-50 year old factorys in Pittsburgh Pa or Youngstown Oh. and once we get Steel,Theres an old AMC Plant in Mich that we might get to build Armored Personell Carriers.'
    In Other Words We Can't because all the Stuff We Need To Make These Things Has been Shipped Overseas.
    This is simply not the case. US Steel is a large producer of steel,still pays a dividend, and of course is US based. A new giant Arcelor Mittal has emerged. One is US based (US Steel), the other is Dutch based controlled by Lakshmi Mittal of Indian decent; both operate in the US. Regardless, alloys are the future.

    Again a lot of good that does the US in case of Naval Blockade or Supply line Disruption.
    Thinking back, i have yet to see an attack on any nation that has considerable globalized ties. Maybe 911, but that was not an attack from a sovereign nation. For example, France has a large Alcoa/Howmet operation in Evon; Alcoa/Howmet is also located in Wichita Falls, Texas. Alcoa is US based. Yet the last time France was invaded, FDR was President, and globalization did not exist as it does now. Globalization is a good hedge against attack IMHO.

    Taken from Wikipedia:
    Headquartered in Cleveland, Ohio, Howmet, a division of Alcoa is a world leader in the investment casting of superalloys, aluminum and titanium primarily for jet aircraft and industrial gas turbine (IGT) engine components. Howmet also provides hot isostatic pressing, titanium ingots and protective coating services.

    Dedicated to research and the development of its material, Howmet operates 27 facilities in the United States, Canada, Mexico, France, the UK, Hungary and Japan.
    This is an example of a 3rd wave company, which is why i previously said i should have been more specific.

    I live in Wichita Ks.....Wanna see how fast an entire local economy would dry up if there is no way to get Aluminum? (Especally in Wartime) Wichita is home to ALL of the Company's That build All the Aircraft for the USAF....Aircraft Plants,Head Offices,R&D its all done Here or In Seattle.......In short no Aluminum,No Planes....
    Alcoa smelts over 2000 Kilo-tons of aluminum per year in the US. I believe this is very close, or even greater than what RUSAL (worlds largest) produces in Russia.

    Ummm Yeah!
    My bad...:jointsmile:

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    #13
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    The Forecast

    Ok Thats better....And thank you for filling me in on something that I did'nt know.

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