Obama / McCain Presidential Debate from Mississippi - 9/26/08

[Psycho4Bud]

i feel ya. but technically the president is also responsible for upholding the constitution and protecting it. the current one has literally amended it using this patriot act and other similar measures.

but true, the perception is that he can send our troops out and he is mostly called the commander in chief in many places.

but why the heck in the first place, we need to be sending our troops out so much that this has become the main role of a US prez. I bet this wasnt how it was intended when they were writing the constitution.

I have to disagree with ya on that. I think that the founding fathers knew that in times of crisis it's important for the President to be able to take initial action instead of waiting for Congress and Senate to get in all their debates on the issue. It was a different time back then. Their first sign of a threat was when the cannon balls were hitting our shores or you could see the Armada off our coast.

Have a good one!:s4:

[flyingimam]

I have to disagree with ya on that. I think that the founding fathers knew that in times of crisis it's important for the President to be able to take initial action instead of waiting for Congress and Senate to get in all their debates on the issue. It was a different time back then. Their first sign of a threat was when the cannon balls were hitting our shores or you could see the Armada off our coast.

Have a good one!:s4:

thats why im lost. u r right and i know it. but then we were not the only super power. now things are only being abused and taken advantage of

after all there must be a rational fix to this situation. perhaps it could be changed in a way to only include defensive measures and not offensive, that will protect america and will prevent needless wars

[rebgirl420]

What makes you think Obama can control our military?

The man hasn't has ANY military experience.

[rebgirl420]

That is incredibly disrespetful to our men and women in uniform.

[Psycho4Bud]

Neither do I, but all he has to do is make the call. Generals, tacticians, and strategists do the rest.

Being in a war doesn't give you 'military' experience in the degree of commanding an army, so I'm not sure how McCain is any more qualified for it than Obama.

He was a pilot, he got shot down, he became a PoW.

He didn't march our troops into Vietnam and conquer most of the free world or anything.

He attended the United States Naval Academy at Annapolis and when he left the service he was on the verge of being a Rear Admiral. That's a hell of alot more than can be said about Obama.

Seems funny that before ya all bitched about George Bush's lack of military experience that got us into a bad situation in Iraq but now military experience isn't needed? GET REAL! This assclown stated during the debates that he's all about stopping the genocide in Darfur! Real nice, another president without military knowledge or experience sending our people into battle. He sure was right regarding the surge wasn't he?

Have a good one!:s4:

[Psycho4Bud]

I didn't believe in going to war in Iraq in the first place, and it didn't have fuck all to do with his military experience.

Well, by a non-partisan vote the Senate and Congress gave Bush the thumbs up for an invasion whether we liked it or not, that's not even an issue here.

"Didn't have fuck all to do with his military experience".....Really, lack of troop levels, the lack of forsite regarding looting of museums, lack of forsite regarding an insurgency or secterian violence, and the list goes on! Obama stated that the Generals, etc. make recommendations but HE alone creates the mission. He damn well better know what the hell he's doing better than Bush did and I seriously don't see how without the training OR experience. This would be like saying that I'm qualified to do open heart surgery based on the fact that I worked maintenance in a hospital system for 6 years.

Have a good one!:s4:

[rebgirl420]

Neither do I, but all he has to do is make the call. Generals, tacticians, and strategists do the rest.

Being in a war doesn't give you 'military' experience in the degree of commanding an army, so I'm not sure how McCain is any more qualified for it than Obama.

He was a pilot, he got shot down, he became a PoW.

He didn't march our troops into Vietnam and conquer most of the free world or anything.

I know what your getting at.

How could anyone be a great commander if they got shot down and taken prisoner?

Thats ridiculous.

McCain has more love for this country than Obama ever will. The military taught McCain discipline and more skills than you can shake a stick at. McCain knows first hand what it is like to be a soldier. He knows what they need. Being a soldier he was taught military strategy.

McCain is so more qualified to lead the military than Obama. The closest thing he's ever gotten to being a commander is playing with army men and G.I. Joe.

[Psycho4Bud]

Have you ever been to war, P4B? Or the military at all?

No but my grandfather, father, and son have. Does this make any difference to this conversation? I'm not running for the position of commander-in-chief of the armed forces.

Have a good one!:s4:

[rebgirl420]

He's not a self proclamed mavrick.

He got that title from the fellow politicians who work with him on a daily basis.

[Reefer Rogue]

Great debate, i was waiting for this thread actually, right on time. I thought both did well but i give it to Obama coz i don't believe Mccain a lot of what he claims obama is or does obama corrects him and actually says what he actually means. He also talks about more key issues for me like college affordabilty and healthcare and i wouldn't trust Mccain with the budget, i think there would be too much wastage.