Plant problems AGAIN!

[sirshamus]

Hello everyone, need a little diagnosis. Am growing in ocean forest under a 600 hps. Temps are between 76-80, humidity staying between 60-70%. Transplanted into 3 gallon pots about 5 or so weeks ago. The girls are into their 19th day of 12/12. Fed them first time in flower with plain water, then 2 tsp of bigbloom and onetsp of tiger bloom(started looking shitty). Next water was water with black strap 1tsp. Then another dose of the nutes at the same strength, and then water again with molasses. A lot of leaves look like crap on this girl, only a few burnt leaves on the others, nothing as bad as this one. Any help would be appreciated. Hope I included enough info. Thanks for looking. First pic is of some of the garden, 2-4 problematic plant, and pic 5 is the top flower of the problem child. Have looked for pests, but haven't noticed any.

sirshamus Reviewed by sirshamus on 09-26-2008. Plant problems AGAIN! Hello everyone, need a little diagnosis. Am growing in ocean forest under a 600 hps. Temps are between 76-80, humidity staying between 60-70%. Transplanted into 3 gallon pots about 5 or so weeks ago. The girls are into their 19th day of 12/12. Fed them first time in flower with plain water, then 2 tsp of bigbloom and onetsp of tiger bloom(started looking shitty). Next water was water with black strap 1tsp. Then another dose of the nutes at the same strength, and then water again with Rating: 5

[Rusty Trichome]

Have you flushed at all? FF does accumulate salts in the soil, so I flush with plain-ph'd water, about once a month.
How often are you giving the nutes? Have you seen the FF nute guide for soil...?
FoxFarm Soil & Fertilizer Company

Personally, I give half of the micro's (Big Bloom) that they recommend, and the ladies appear to appreciate it very much. Also...until you get used to identifying and solving issues...would eliminate the molasses. Adding it to stressed ladies, stresses them more.

[stinkyattic]

I agree with Rusty that it is soil salting. The V-shaped pattern of damage is classic.
Next watering should be at 1/4 strength, REALLY heavy like a mini-flush, so that a bunch of crap washes out the bottom of the pots. Get in the habit of alternating feed and plain water given to the point of runoff to avoid this.

[sirshamus]

Haven't flushed since before I transplanted them. When I water them, I let water fill the saucer underneath about half way, should I be watering them where the water can just run out and not in the saucer. I have looked at the FF soild guide online and not even given the strength they suggest. Oops, just watered last night with molasses.. You guys think I should flush them with plain ph'd water tonight? How much water do you flush them with, a shit load? Thanks for checking in on me and was hoping you two would chime in.

[Rusty Trichome]

I'd flush well...and I'd do it tonite if possible. :thumbsup:

Using the FF line, I flush monthly (or so) with about twice the volume of the pot, with properly ph'd water. (6 gallons of water per 3 gallon pot) For the last little bit of the flush, I add about a quart of the properly mixed nutrient solution (Tiger Bloom) to keep 'em happy till next week's feeding.

With this flush tho...I'd avoid giving more nutes. Let her rest a bit.

Allow the medium to dry-out before any other waterings/feedings, or conditions that cause root rot could develop. (prolonged soaking is bad)

Also...be careful adjusting the nutrient ratio to the dosages listed on the FF website. Try and sneak-up on the max to avoid nute burn. :jointsmile:

If you could let us know the results, I'd appreciate it. :thumbsup:

[sirshamus]

Will do on that flush tonight. You have any suggestions on a different line of nutes?

[sirshamus]

did the flush, 6 gallon per with a hint of tiger in the last gallon. Will let you know how they look. Thanks Rusty and Stinky.

[wayward]

there's a way to grow where you won't experience this kind of problem. what you have there is fert burn. you've ferted them without knowing whether it was too much, not enough, or just right. there's a way you can prevent this kind of thing from happening and you'll take all the guesswork out of growing. the method is this - don't try to do anything special. just get some Foxfarm Fruit and Flower powdered fert at your grow store and put two cups of it in a five gallon container and mix well, then put your plants in that and just water them when their thirsty. That will solve 99% percent of your feeding issues. You won't have to worry about salt build up. People make too much out of growing. It's just a plant. Don't do anything special and you'll have better grows.

[sirshamus]

Thanks for your input, wayward. Will look into that, next time I'm at the hydro store.

[Rusty Trichome]

Will do on that flush tonight. You have any suggestions on a different line of nutes?

Nope...FF is a solid line of nutes, in my opinion. As with any nute or additive...you have to get used to making adjustments. Shouldn't take ya too long to find a balance.

My only beef with FF is the salt build-up, but monthly flushes fixes that issue. Anyway...I always do regular flushes, regardless of whether it's TriFlex, Fox Farms, or Advanced Nutrients. (altho, for the price...Advanced Nutrients should really flush itself, and have a pop-up indicator when it's time to harvest, lol.)

And wayward...why would sirshamus need to go out and buy more nutes...? He has a fine product already, and I really don't get what your technique is supposed to accompolish, other than root rot. But perhaps It's just too early, lol.