Quote Originally Posted by dragonrider
Earlier you mentioned that your original post had a facetious tone, but you want your idea to be considered seriously. Maybe people were reacting to the tone, so let's get past that.

Taking your idea seriously, do you really think that Bush might try to precipitate a real crisis of this scale, or manufacture a fake crisis of this size, in order to really declare martial law and cancel elections? I don't have any respect for Bush, and I think he has caused some major disasters, but I don't really think this is about seizing power under martial law. It seems far-fetched to me. He seems like more of a misguided idiot than a true dictator. My sense is that he cannot wait to be done with his presidency, and there is no way he would try to extend it a single day.
i totally agree with what u say. except that, Cheney can very well do whats been said. he is no idiot and he is sort of as powerful or maybe even more powerful than Bush himself. he is an extremist, i have no doubt, we got muslim extremists and we have american extremists, he is the latter!
yes i know in technical terms VP is not = to prez, but in practice there are some ways to manipulate with that equation.

again that has an almost non-existent chance of happening given our current situation.

However I bring your attention to this: In my opinion no government is sacred, they all have dirty secrets and it is also no secret that they have used lies and made-up or artificial crises in the past to achieve certain goals beyond public's understanding, do u agree? 1 recent example: Iraq war, it started with all the wrong reasons and lies that are now no secret to any1.

Our very own government has had embarrassments like Iran Contra affair and has also participated in some covert ops and coups in other countries. some of these embarassments have had direct adverse effects on our very own citizens! CIA's role in Crack cocaine epidemic which has always been "denied" by the govt but widely believed to be a real story and our current war on drugs are just obvious examples of such actions

hang on right there for a sec

There has been word of war with Iran and a TON of pressure from Israel, our MOST important ally for this to happen. Depending on the circumstances to come in near future and depending on issues that are out of our control and given the talk earlier about how governments can be deceptive to their own citizens, I don't RULE OUT the chance of such a conflict in the upcoming months until the next prez swears in.

This is as much possible as our officials have always maintained military option is on the table.

not that it necessarily relates to current political situation, but it has always been like this and we have maintained we may very well attack Iran if needed.

im sure u get the idea

practically speaking there is a very tiny lil bitty (read NO) chance for a 3rd conflict to drag us down there in mid-east now

However, there are many factors involved (including which candidate is our next prez & many other factors) that can give this thing an overnight boost in probability of happening.

Never rule out any probability, u may well get caught surprised!!

and most of these scenarios are at best possible hypotheticals right now, with some potential to always happen...

another example: Pakistan got nukes, they have volatile relationship with India (also a nuke power) and they got islamic fanatics and jihadists in hundreds of numbers in their country...

their nukes could very well be jeopardized since there are not guaranteed oversights as we have in america... i know there is tight security for those stuff, but still all u need is a couple of inside men for outside idiots to get their hands on one of those things.

u know, these are just "feasible ideas" not that they will happen or are potentially gonna happen. but just based on this explanation, I personally do not rule out anything of the sort!