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09-25-2008, 06:11 PM #11
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BREAKING NEWS! McCain is suspending his campaign and is asking Obama to do the same!
My quote:
Your response:How do you think this stuff works? Do you think all 100 senators sit together in a room working things through together? Do you think nothing gets done if one of them is not in the building? No. Party leadership from both sides canvass their membership on what is acceptable to each and what they want, and then it gets hashed out in committee. If a compromise is necessary, they contact everyone to see how they will vote. NEITHER ONE OF THESE MEN HEADS OR SITS ON A RELEVANT COMMITTEE. As long as they are in contact with their party leadership, they don't need to be there, except to vote. They certainly do not need to supend their campaigns.
Daihashi, are you out of smoke? You seem to be getting a little bit "prickly." I never called you stupid or ignorant. I was giving you crap because you keep insisting McCain needs to be in Wshington in order to do his job, but you are actually SMART ENOUGH to know that is not the case. If I thought I was just talking to an idiot who couldn't be expected to know any better, I wouldn't bother. But you do know better.
Originally Posted by daihashi
Ha ha! I'm not eager to trash McCain! I'm just very disappointed in him for playing a political stunt with something that is important. I do see that this is important --- it's too important to be playing games with it.
Originally Posted by daihashi
Are you kidding me? I'm not trying to have it both ways. I said he doesn't need to be there, and his presence will be a distraction and a disruption. How is that having it both ways? It's like not wanting a 3-year-old help you paint the kitchen --- "How can you say he's not helpful? If he's big enough to spill paint on the floor, then he's big enough to do the trimwork. You can't have it both ways!" Ridiculous. Just because McCain is important enough to cause a disruption does not mean he is necessary to a solution.
Originally Posted by daihashi
And I criticise you for being biased as well and obtuse to the fact that McCain does not need to call for a suspension of the campaign and a delay to the debates in order to do his proper role, which is to wait for a negotiated deal between the House and Senate party leaders and the White House, and then go vote on it. You are being obtuse to the fact that this campaign suspension is a stunt. McCain wants you to believe that he is necesary to a solution so that you will think he is more important than he really is, and you apparently DO believe that.
Originally Posted by daihashi
I guess you can dismiss my explanation as not having "substance" if you want. I thought I explained it well enough. Most people seem to understand it.
Originally Posted by daihashi
Actually, there is not a lot of "defending Obama" going on here, because so far there hasn't been much criticism of Obama --- nothing to defend him over. He is both doing his job as Senator and running a very effective campaign, so what is to criticise? What is to defend? The thread is mostly about criticism and defense of McCain.
Originally Posted by daihashi
As for "not explaining," no one has explained exactly what McCain intends to do while the election is on hold and he is in Wshington. The argument is he is going to "do his job" and "deal with the crisis." But what exactly? He deosn't have a seat at the negotiations, so what the hell is he going to do that he couldn't do from anywhere in the country? If word comes down that there is going to be a vote, he will have time to get back, so he does not need to be there. As far as I can tell, the Senate leadership has NOT wanted him there. I've seen leaders on both sides say these two should keep out, and the deal is almost done.
Maybe you should step out for awhile --- seems like you are getting a bit worked up and emotional.
Originally Posted by daihashi
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