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09-24-2008, 06:29 PM #21
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Reports: Fifth-grader suspended over anti-Obama shirt
:S4::S4:OBAMA:S4::S4:
Obama is a chump!!
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09-24-2008, 06:38 PM #22
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Reports: Fifth-grader suspended over anti-Obama shirt
that would be a first..
Originally Posted by Billionfold
Obama is the answer to all the questions, even to Who is the AntiChrist?
l8r
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09-24-2008, 08:44 PM #23
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Reports: Fifth-grader suspended over anti-Obama shirt
I don't have a problem with people to wear political stuff as they please but this is retarded. What the hell does a 5th grader know about politics? It's his father vicariously living through his son.
Not appropriate.
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09-25-2008, 08:36 PM #24
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Reports: Fifth-grader suspended over anti-Obama shirt
You're probably correct he doesn't know but it's not beyond possibility. I assume he's had information directed at him by his father, whether he divulged that is unknown. Regardless of what it says, my point is that one should be allowed to wear what they want and not be punished for being peaceful, when you're not harming anyone, you've done nothing wrong. Perhaps a stretch but i think it could hold. I guess the limits come in with racism etc but arguably there should be no limits because we're in general principle a civilized society and can distinguinsh between right and wrong without government or authoritarian involvement or interference. This is a point which goes beyond the shirt, the key values here are liberty and freedom from domination of the state power telling the people what is in their best interest. Well, only ourselves can determine this, doing our own good in our own way. The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others. Over himself, over his own body and mind, the individual is sovereign.
Originally Posted by DaBudhaStank
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09-26-2008, 03:25 PM #25
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Reports: Fifth-grader suspended over anti-Obama shirt
if you read the whole article, it states that the child was not suspended for the shirt, but infact because he was not listening , and being disruptive. school is not the place for politics. it is a place to learn, and anyone causing a distraction like this should be suspended.
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09-26-2008, 04:50 PM #26
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Reports: Fifth-grader suspended over anti-Obama shirt
Actually, the kid's father made it.
Originally Posted by Billionfold
But you're not supposed to blame parents.
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09-26-2008, 05:43 PM #27
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Reports: Fifth-grader suspended over anti-Obama shirt
yeah it was badly a makeshift one... looked like they used lip liner for the red color... home technology eh? lol
and if u actually see the kid's father's face u will figure this whole thing out... certain faces talk outloud even in a still picture!!
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09-26-2008, 05:52 PM #28
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Reports: Fifth-grader suspended over anti-Obama shirt
When your'e in school you dont have any rights. For the same reason they are able to search a locker or your backpack without a warrant they are also able to regulate what you wear. The fathers lawsuit will do nothing besides lose them a lot of money that could be used to make other ugly terrbile t-shirts to be worn at home.
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10-05-2008, 06:45 PM #29
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Reports: Fifth-grader suspended over anti-Obama shirt
maybe you couldnt read those words by fifth grade, but im sure this kid could. That is rediculous to be suspended over a T shirt like that.... i hope the parents can sue the school system over this...I'm glad the kid stood up and chose suspension also, i would glad to miss some days of school at his age also. its not like his t shirt was about drugs or sex... //
Originally Posted by DaBudhaStank
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10-06-2008, 06:05 PM #30
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Reports: Fifth-grader suspended over anti-Obama shirt
I don't think freedom of speech is limitless in the context of a public school; there are rules of appropriate attire. There was a kid in my high-school who wore a shirt 3 days in a row that read, in big letters, "Fuck you, you Fucking Fuck". He was eventually booted for refusing to take it off.
If you wanna wear a pro Obama or McCain shirt, have at it. If you want to wear an anti-Obama or McCain shirt, have at it. But when you're gonna spew outright bullshit, calling Obama a terrorist, that's where I'd draw the line. Were I principal I wouldn't allow an "Obama = Terrorist" shirt, and I wouldn't allow a "Bush = Nazi" shirt either. These aren't valid opinions, they're childish insults; and frankly my biggest objection is that in a school environment, they advocate a mindset of reactionary sheeple rather than critical thinkers.
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