Quote Originally Posted by daihashi
I can find a way to link Obama and terrorists preferring him and I'll do it if you ask me. It doesn't matter how solid it is as it would be an open debate... which in essence would throw defamation out the window.
Terrorists may prefer many things, including our lovely CEOs and financial crunch. Are our CEOs connected to terrorists as well now? if yes then i have no point debating on this issue anymore.

Quote Originally Posted by daihashi
It basically doesn't matter how flimsy it is. It's pretty much been determined that you can say anything you want about a person in the public spotlight without having to worry about it.
I somewhat agree with this statement, "practically" thats how it is. But technically it's otherwise and if u got a good case, u can make an exception to the usual flow.

Quote Originally Posted by daihashi
Why are you so defensive. I simply posted a supreme court ruling. I'm sorry but your argument for defamation is invalid. It's as simple as that.
I was just trying to clear the point u probably may have missed in your own post, check at the bottom of your quote:

A public official or other plaintiff who has voluntarily assumed a position in the public eye must prove that defamatory statements were made with knowledge that they were false or with reckless disregard of whether they were false.
If u please, u may view it at being defensive, however u like it. but then again thats part of a debate, people try to defend their stance using whatever source, evidence or backup that they have. Call my argument invalid, the law says otherwise and u can check again to understand my point, i merely copied the same ruling from a different source and here u have it from ur own quote man.

I never have any harsh feelings debating these stuff:rastasmoke:

Quote Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
A child in school has no right to "insist" on wearing anything - especially regarding politics. Try insisting on wearing a political button, much less a T-Shirt, to many jobs and see how long you last until they show you the door. What the hell are these kids being told by their elders?

Each new generation of parents gets worse than the previous one.

It's no wonder the whole country is going to hell in a handbasket.
agreed. Even though I might not personally like this, but schools have their own rules and believe it or not freedom of speech the way we think of it, is a bit limited there.

reminds me of "what would jesus bong" and that wasnt even on school property. just during a school program. and that would be something protected under normal freedom of speech but students got disciplined over it and apparently the law was on school's side.