Quote Originally Posted by flyingimam
She is not there as a governor. She is there as perhaps a presumptive and potential VP of this country in near future.
Really? because I thought that you had to visit as a seated Governor, Senate or whatever your position was. That you couldn't use your trips as a political tool for your candidacy. :thumbsup:

Even then you seem to have a misunderstanding, let's say that she's there as a potential VP. It's still not her place to hold in depth political conversations with foreign leaders. She is not yet in a position to be making any promises to them or decisions. Neither is Obama.



This trip is not a Governor delegation, She is there to Boost her foreign policy credentials as a potential US VP!!!!
Really? Is that your interpretation or is that what she said?

and none of this has to do with Obama's seal thing. stop changing the subject. I for one do my best to stay neutral and factual and unbiased. I defend some1 of any side if they deserve the defense and i do my best to use a valid defense line.
It's very relevant and you are taking this personally. Fact is that Obama has been acting as if he has won the presidency for some time now. He had no right to go overseas. He is running for the United States of America. When he has won the office then he can go overseas and meet with all the leaders and give all the speeches he wants.

I've yet to see you defend McCain or Palin on some issues that were just plain stupid to even talk about. Please don't act as if you are unbiased. Fact is that you are getting upset that I am bringing to light facts that cannot be denied.

I don't see Palin displaying the same arrogance as Obama. She knows she has not won the seat yet and will not act on it until she has.

Not every counter attack is considered an acceptable defense. it will only escalate the discussion from a debate to an argument. That said, some counter attacks are relevant and fair game.
What was the point of this?

trust me, they dont give a rats ass about such a thing. unless that is the person whose gonna be the next top man or woman in the country. so I bet both of these 2 people (Obama & Palin) are treated the same.
Apparently you do, you are trying adamantly to defend Obama here when I simply used him in comparison to Palin. You say you don't care? Really seems as if you do. :hippy:
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