Quote Originally Posted by Coelho
Well... thats indeed a very good reason to hate them... i didnt imagine you had actually suffered such things... so forgive me.
forgive u for what? u have not done anything wrong!!! u just asked me a question

it does not matter if I have suffered from these bastards or not... thousands more have indeed suffered far more than I personally have.

there is a reason to hate them, but look @ me, i hate them to my guts and i still dont war with them, cuz the war will not solve anything, certainly will not "liberate" and free Iranians from what is now their regime... its oppression in peace now, it will be double oppression in violence when war starts

Iraq is a textbook example, sure Saddam was a bad person and it was a good thing for the world to see him go... but when u do things with the wrong intent and with lies, this is the result: NO RESULT

Iraqis have died for lies, Americans have died for lies, British have died for lies, and according to the very American intelligence reports al-qaeda is nowhere close to its death and has become a worldwide cult that many idiots follow, thus America is no safer imo cuz of the war in Iraq, Bin laden and Zawaheri are still alive and on the run and working against us, Iranian regime has gotten its most dangerous enemy destroyed (Yes, believe it or not Saddam was far more of a threat to them than US or Israel ever were, he indeed imposed an 8 years of bloody war on that regime and the people-with west's aid) and thus now having much more power and influence in mideast, Iraqis are really not much better in means of material life than they were under sanctioned Saddam's Iraq and US is just now far more hated than it was on sep 12 2001. Al-qaeda gave US a very good opportunity by that stupid attack for it to fix its foreign policy, and what did we do? we just tripled the intensity of the same stupid foreign policy that had gotten us to that point.

The world was with America on toppling Taliban, even Iran was on US side.

Who was on our side regarding Iraq? and even few of those nobodies on our side, have since defected our side

so, in conclusion, another war will not make USA any safer at all nor will it free Iranians from their oppressive regime, it will be from muddy nasty ditch to a deep dark well type of move for everyone.

and thats why the USA and NO OTHER STATE should sit down and talk to these people and figure out a deal, or else my friends, our world will be over the way we know it today... yes the way we know it today, the post 9/11 world will turn into post iran invasion world which will be far more worse!!!! for everyone not just Americans or Iranians or Israelis, it will impact almost every nation on this planet.

this war is not going to be won conventionally, and i doubt it will ever be won by any party involved

at best it will become another vietnam
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