Quote Originally Posted by GoldenBoy812
Some things to be worried about in that abstract: "India defied the US". The Canadians (as much as some of them here embarrass themselves), are very much in terms equal to Iran with regards to fossil fuel supply to Canada if we take into consideration trade partnering.

Canada supplies a large chunk of our crude, would we actually jeopardize that over ideological difference? I think not, and we should IMHO think hard about the ramifications of a middle eastern power other than Israel posessing a nuclear device. The question remains, does an Islamic state's posession of a nuclear device (such as a weapon) create instability? Just ask India, and then wonder why they are supportive of a trading partner (India) having one...
my problem is not that i deny or believe a so called Islamic government's possession of nuclear technology or weapons for that matter can be tolerated.... my problem is that we have the key to peacefully solve this and yet we refuse to even sit down and talk with the enemy

problem with India vs Pakistan is far more complicated and imo irrelvant to the subject of iran, if u have read the history u know that india and pakistan were originally one country, there were clashes between muslims and hindus and under rule of britian on that land Britain decided that we massively move all muslims to one side and keep hindus on the other thus creating pakistan and india

to best of my knowledge nationalism of iranians of all religions and races and tribes has appealed over their differences in the past, check the history and u will find that people vs people has not taken place until the islamic revolution.

and pakistani indian relations have deep roots amongst their people

India and Pakistan have had wars, Iran and Israel have not! and i know the frustration with world powers over irans stance regarding israel but u gotta understand if we dont at least let true & fair negotiations proceed we are choosing Armageddon.

and if u want to look @ it historically u should go back to the Persian Empire's time of Cyrus the great and find out what jews think of him. he literally rescued the Israelites in the land of Babel.


i dont want to shift the discussion to those subjects tho, so back to the point:

after all if we cant solve the problems with words and deals there will be wars.

time to bully our way thru is over.... britain, france, portugal, spain, netherlands, etc have all had their time of dominance in the history and most failed harshly because they failed to realize its time to change the policy and the game...

same will repeat if we dont "outsmart ourselves". we can be blinded with pride & the power we possess and thats what worries me cuz when those empires failed, there was no nuclear weapon to end the game but now there is and i highly doubt that will do any good in the long run for any human being

I'm not saying we gotta legitimize the mullahs or accept a nuclear armed iran... no, what im saying is that there are diplomatic ways and deals that can be made and compromises that can be made to achieve a peaceful resolution.

extremists on both sides will lead to nothing but war and conflict.