hey rock, nice work in there. you said something about them sitting in puddles. Ive noticed a good indication of a strong root base is the water in the tray being pulled back in to the roots of a period of 10 to 20 min. if the trays dont dry in that period, then yeah, definitely pull out the water.

congrats on resolving your issues....i hope to be there soon myself...lol

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