after searching another site threre is something called budworms. the only remidy that they had listed there was to shake the plant several times a day.doesnt sound to usefull seeing that there inside the plant. have tried using the soap-water mix but doesnt seem to bother these guys. 3 weeks into flowering outdoors so i dont think it would be safe to use any pesticide. sorry for so many post but cant get pics on comp and trying to give enough info for somehelp anything else i could try w/o worring about final prod.oh yeah about a week ago i tried the nicotine spray also with no result.