Quote Originally Posted by TheMetal1
I think this is the key right here ^^ We are at an "OH FUCK" point, where if we don't do what we're doing... we're fucked. While it seems like our government is rushing to bail them out... I think everyone realizes that it is a bad situation. Charity should begin at home.

In regards to that quote though... I think that is so true. We are going to be changing in many ways to meet these new challenges. While we seem to be jumping to the will of Big Money CEO's... I highly doubt they will be granted such aid in the future.

Like I said... we're at an "Oh FUCK" point. They see this as the only way to "save" our country. After things are squared away... it is up to US to make sure this bullshit stops. I think that "fire" has been lit under the American people lately... and things will get interesting in the near future.
The following is not directed to TheMetal1 but rather is a general response to their and others' posts:

Whether we bail "them" (the people that created and profited handsomely from this mess) out or not we're still fucked, it's just a matter of who feels the pain and when. The boomers will postpone the pain (like they always do) until after their dead (if they can) and their kids down to their great great grand kids will be paying for this in the form of UN-CONTROLABLE INFLATION! Despite what the Fed wants you to believe.

With a bail out the pain will be slow and last a lot longer like a bad toothache. Without one it will hurt more but the pain will end sooner like a ripping off a band aid. Either way we're fucked and it's going to hurt! A lot! Oh and giving these guys more money isn't going to help any taxpayers in the end. It's just the only place they haven't sucked dry... yet. But as you give them more and more money inflation will rise so it will definitely hurt us on the way to the end. (can you say computer chips as money?) This is a generality for simplicity's sake if you care to debate the points please start another thread and I will be happy to explain and discuss the entire situation (as I see it) in greater detail.

It's sad that the citizens of this country are so clueless about money management, financing, and currency. People just don't understand the situation (including all those smarty pants' in government and business) and react out of fear due to ignorance. I'm sure I could explain it to people but I just don't think they even care to understand it. And that's where the problem lies. People are so under-educated and mentally lazy that they don't know how to think anymore. They believe what bullshit they're fed as long as they don't have to feel "bad" about anything. Feeling "bad" (ever) is generally seen as a disease now. "We" (society as a whole) medicate people, or remove them from society completely, (via hospitals and prisons) for feeling "bad" so that we don't have to feel "bad" because they do. So they won't "infect" "us" with their bad feelings and "we" can go on blissfully ignorant to the reasons these "bad" people feel "bad" in the first place. The many make the few carry the emotional burden of all for the betterment of the many to the extreme detriment of those few. The beginnings of authoritarianism in our society. We shall see which road this leads us down next.

I've been feeling "bad" for my entire life because I can see the big picture way ahead of just about everyone else, and I knew this "crisis" (among others) was coming. And now I'm glad that everyone else can't ignore that there's a great big reason to feel "bad", because things are BAD! And they're only going to get worse with or without a bailout. I can't even tell "you" (reader in general) how fucked "we" truly are. Then again I'm not sure "you" are ready to understand it as it will most assuredly make "you" feel "bad" too.

"We" should not accept ineffective government and its ineffective policies, "we" have the right, and the duty, to remove an inept government and it's arcane and obtrusive policies and install a new and better one. (maybe this time we can keep it simple, loophole free, with liberty and justice for all, not just those with enough money to buy it) It's just a matter of getting the authoritarians (followers and leaders alike) on board, and that is an almost impossible task.

Blessed be ~