Osama's Fannie and Freddie contributions..

[TheMetal1]

I think nobody is commenting on the story... regardless of beliefs... because most people are sick to death of arguing about every story as soon as it comes out of the Spin Cycle. All this he said, she said shit is rediculous.

So, one or two calls were made... by someone supporting the Obama campaign... to ask about general economic questions? Wow... I can see the devil horns poking out right now. :jointsmile:

How about G.H.W.Bush meeting with Shafiq bin Laden on 9/10? Or how about the famous video of Rumsfeld shaking hands with fucking SADAAM. You know... the "Hussein," that actually did all sorts of horrific and sadistic shit to hundreds of thousands of people.

Politicians, the world over, will have connections to some unsavory characters. I guess my point being... we always pretend like we care that our leaders deal with some fucked up assholes on a daily basis. In reality... we just argue about how awful it is until some new connection is made with some OTHER politician.... and move on.

If it REALLY mattered who people in government know... talk to... have "friendly" relationships (which is political talk for, "I don't want to alienate voters by saying I hate that guy) then we would still be constantly questioning the ties people in our CURRENT leadership have with the Middle East.

But we DON'T...... :wtf:

Edit: Again... I always have to say that I don't know who I'm voting for. It is easy to claim that someone questioning a story about Obama, it means they are worshipping him or want to have his baby or something like that :wtf: It's just getting exhausting with the finger pointing. It seems like everybody is just searching for that skeleton in the closet that will blow the election wide open.

- if that's how they do things... I can NEVER run for President. Hahaha

[daihashi]

If it REALLY mattered who people in government know... talk to... have "friendly" relationships (which is political talk for, "I don't want to alienate voters by saying I hate that guy) then we would still be constantly questioning the ties people in our CURRENT leadership have with the Middle East.

But we DON'T...... :wtf:

I don't.. I've understood some of the things the bush administration has done, but most things I have refused to give them a free pass on. I think all things considered they did what they felt was right, but exploited the hell out of the situation.

I do advocate staying in Iraq, simply because I feel if we don't then we would've wasted fuck tons of money, lives, and resources for nothing... but it does not mean that I agree with the reasons which we went over.

Bush get's no free pass from me but I don't think he's the devil.

Same way I don't think Obama is the devil even though I don't particularly care for his politics. :hippy:

[dragonrider]

To be fair.. I think it worked for him.

If Rusty was looking to get a rise out of people who support Obama it seems to have worked. Everyone is falling over each other to defend their champions honor.

To be honest I find that equally stupid as I do the name calling.

Both sides GET OVER IT! You are not having his baby... and on the flip side He cannot control what his first, middle or last name that was given to him.

If his goal was to troll a reaction, then it worked. You are probalby right --- it was a troll. But if he wanted people to comment on his post, then it didn't work. We've got a dozen posts and none on the topic. It's a valid topic, but I don't feel any compelling reason to dignify this thread with a real response.

[Rusty Trichome]

I think nobody is commenting on the story... regardless of beliefs... because most people are sick to death of arguing about every story as soon as it comes out of the Spin Cycle. All this he said, she said shit is rediculous.

Gee...where do we go to talk politics, then?
But seriously...I can see where attempting to defend a contemptuous campaign gets old after a while. :thumbsup:

So, one or two calls were made... by someone supporting the Obama campaign... to ask about general economic questions?

So you consider "close Ties" to the obama campaign, a couple of phone calls by 'surrogates'? Even using that, the folks called are the ones responsible for taking lending past the point of legality, while gaining multi-million dollar "golden parachutes".
Again...obama's associations are sinking his ship. I wonder if Rezco knew Franklin Raines, James Johnson, and Jamie Gorelick, too? (all googlable) All involved with regulation and legislation (and it's inherant subtrufuge) of the banking/lending institutions that just needed nearly a trillion dollars of "loans" and bail-outs from us taxpayers.

Regarding the "childish" name calling...You ought to read some of the immature bullshit I read in here all day, being passed-on as fact. I'm just joining in the fun.

[daihashi]

If his goal was to troll a reaction, then it worked. You are probalby right --- it was a troll. But if he wanted people to comment on his post, then it didn't work. We've got a dozen posts and none on the topic. It's a valid topic, but I don't feel any compelling reason to dignify this thread with a real response.

Then you are also not dignifying yourself. People jumping and reaching to defend a person's name is just ridiculous. This isn't elementary school.

You just fed fuel to the fire by playing into his hand.

This post of yours doesn't justify you or him or anyone else in this thread that got pissy over things that don't even matter. I honestly did not expect you to even respond to my post as a means to psuedo defend yourself/slam him. You are usually better than that.

The reason no one is commenting on this thread is because you and others are too hung up on the fact that he said "Osama".

Like I said earlier, get over it. The only people who are stopping this thread from moving forward and talk about a topic that probably deserves being discussed are you (I am using 'you' here as a general you.. not specifically you).

[dragonrider]

You just fed fuel to the fire by playing into his hand.

Yes, I am going to stop fanning the flames and leave this thread to YOU (the general you, not the specific you) and the troll (the specific troll) to discuss the issue (whichever issue you want, name-calling, AIG bailout, whatever).

[Psycho4Bud]

John McCain is nearly 100% carbon copy of *hitler*cough* excuse me, George BushEither!

NOBODY from the left wing in here made any statement regarding this but has the notion that a name change for Obama is a sin? GET REAL!!!

IF you people want, I'll moderate this place in a fashion where changing names or making rediculous comments about political figures is prohibited. My e-mail is in my signature and the poll is now open. UNTIL I have feedback on this issue, live with it.

Also keep in mind that in the same manner that the above post had "freedom of speech", so does everyone else in here and personal attacks on a member for exercising this IS against the guidelines!!!

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[rebgirl420]

Everyone needs to STFU..

Are you in bed with Obama. How are YOU insulted. Yes it is a cheap shot at Obama.. Yes I think it is stupid.. yes I think that it is tactless..


but honestly stop getting your damn panties in a wad. People have been talking crap about McCain forever.. as they have been doing so about Obama.

I don't particularly agree with Rusty's jokingly changing Obama's name to say Osama but I don't find it insulting. Were you insulted when John Oliver on the Daily Show did the exact same thing at the DNC... chanting "Osama.. Osama.. Osama". I bet you didn't.

So everyone have a nice cup of STFU... all things aside the article is very informative. Let's focus on that instead.

Hahaha...

Anyway, about the issue at hand. Obama was ranked second for taking money from all these corrupt companies. McCain was very, very low on the list.

However really I feel that the government should have never bailed ANY of these companies out. And these greedy CEO's should be hanged. All of these greedy politicians in Washington are to blame. And whats worse is that it's EVERY freaking side. Not just left or right, BOTH. And now they are all scrambling to pull it together.

Also, I am sick and tired of the media calling this a crisis and the next depression, it isn't even a freaking recession yet! This speculation is whats going to hurt us all the most.

It's not just the U.S. either, it's hitting the whole world. Neither Obama or McCain is going to fix this bullshit. All they will do is slap a band-aid over this and hope it holds until 4-8 years. What they are doing now is making it seems like they have the answers and that they will be the ones to make a stand and fix Washington, well guess what? That is some major bullshit. It's all a big show, they will do and say anything and make "plans" that will do nothing.

We need to demand smaller government and demand that the government NOT use our hard earned dollars to fix a problem THEY freaking started.


(Oh and when I read Daihashi's post I thought of this pic)

[daihashi]

Hahaha...

Anyway, about the issue at hand. Obama was ranked second for taking money from all these corrupt companies. McCain was very, very low on the list.

However really I feel that the government should have never bailed ANY of these companies out. And these greedy CEO's should be hanged. All of these greedy politicians in Washington are to blame. And whats worse is that it's EVERY freaking side. Not just left or right, BOTH. And now they are all scrambling to pull it together.

Also, I am sick and tired of the media calling this a crisis and the next depression, it isn't even a freaking recession yet! This speculation is whats going to hurt us all the most.

It's not just the U.S. either, it's hitting the whole world. Neither Obama or McCain is going to fix this bullshit. All they will do is slap a band-aid over this and hope it holds until 4-8 years. What they are doing now is making it seems like they have the answers and that they will be the ones to make a stand and fix Washington, well guess what? That is some major bullshit. It's all a big show, they will do and say anything and make "plans" that will do nothing.

We need to demand smaller government and demand that the government NOT use our hard earned dollars to fix a problem THEY freaking started.


(Oh and when I read Daihashi's post I thought of this pic)

Couldn't have agreed more; however I do see the need for these companies to get bailed out. If their business was not so intertwined with the rest of the economy I would say let them drown. We need to start working towards downsizing our government and put back what the government was meant to do..... GOVERN.. not manage private entities.

This is a fairly sensitive issue because honestly you can't make a move one way or the other without having to get your hands dirty.



PS: I was thinking of that same image when I typed that up :hippy:

[rebgirl420]

That is a very valid point. These company's tentacles stretch out world wide but either way people are going to get fucked.

So now the question is, how would you like to take it? I prefer doggystyle haha.