Ty
that was very informative
it turns out the flowers (not opened yet) were coming from adifferent plant than I had originally suspectd. I thought they looked young, to be growing on a plant that was a week away .they are on a plant 2 weeks behind the other I had suspected. Didnt seem to bad .Managed to clip lower branches where most seemed to be and picked out the remaing few and will keep a close eye. shes down wind from the others.
i'm goingto look into that dutch masters..ty..and keep us posted on how it works out for you :thumbsup:

this is her on the left a week ago