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	09-18-2008, 11:28 PM #11 Senior Member Senior Member
 Obama: Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, & Lehman BrotherThat shit's like a poem :hippy: Good post P4B :rasta: Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
 
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	09-18-2008, 11:40 PM #12 Senior Member Senior Member
 Obama: Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, & Lehman BrotherHrm.. I'm not sure if I'm remembering this correctly but weren't you and a number of other people on this forum bashing McCain for being in the back pocket of "big oil"..... Originally Posted by khronik Originally Posted by khronik
 
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 kettle..
 black..
 
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	09-19-2008, 04:18 AM #13 Senior Member Senior Member
 Obama: Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, & Lehman BrotherMe? No, although our current administration certainly is, and their ties go far beyond campaign donations. John McCain though, I don't believe has any special ties to the oil industry. Originally Posted by daihashi Originally Posted by daihashi
 
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	09-23-2008, 02:21 AM #14 Senior Member Senior Member
 Obama: Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, & Lehman BrotherI couldn't agree with this any more. Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
 
 The way our election system is just does not work for the interest of the people. It's just a big thing that makes people feel like they have some sort of control. I hope to be able to see it change for the better before my final days come. At least then I'll know that my children and grandchildren would have a better life.
 
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	09-23-2008, 04:42 AM #15 Senior Member Senior Member
 Obama: Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, & Lehman BrotherMaybe he's getting so much money from the types of corporations he is against because they hope he'll reverse himself on his policies. 
 
 That sounds ludicrous, but there are many reasons someone would donate to a campaign that don't just revolve arouond helping to elect someone. And, as a candidate, are you really going to argue with someone who's offering your campaign buttloads of cash?
 
 Personally, even if it was money coming from the most despicable industries in the world, I wouldn't say no.
 
 Unless they told me to do something for them in exchange for the cash.
 
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	09-23-2008, 05:13 AM #16 Senior Member Senior Member
 Obama: Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, & Lehman BrotherDo you realize what you just said. Maybe people are donating SO MUCH MONEY in hopes he'll REVERSE HIS POLICIES. Originally Posted by JakeMartinez Originally Posted by JakeMartinez
 
 Think that through and get back with me; because what you said is true and makes perfect sense but not in the way that you meant it. It involves selling out :hippy: :hippy:
 
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	09-23-2008, 09:51 AM #17 Senior Member Senior Member
 Obama: Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, & Lehman BrotherSelling out would be Obama asking for the money in return for his favor, or the companies offering the money only if he agrees to enforce policies that will help them make more money. Originally Posted by daihashi Originally Posted by daihashi
 
 Not sure what you want me to see, so please help me out here.
 
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	09-23-2008, 10:59 AM #18 OPSenior Member OPSenior Member
 Obama: Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, & Lehman BrotherFirst thing that come to mind with this statement was the HUGE pay raise his wife received from the University of Illinois and the HUGE amount of earmarks they received in return. Originally Posted by JakeMartinez Originally Posted by JakeMartinez
 
 REAL change isn't an option in this election.
 
 Have a good one!:s4:
 
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	09-23-2008, 12:36 PM #19 Senior Member Senior Member
 Obama: Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, & Lehman BrotherJust as bad as mccain...Which is why it's so sad that we technically only get to choose between the two..I think we should be able to vote for whoever the fuck we want to and it be counted..I shouldn't be forced to vote for someone who isn't even actually running for true republican values.. Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
 
 I just want to rip up every mccain sign that I see in people's yards..but it's okay, if he gets elected that'll be punishment enough..and then some..
 
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	09-23-2008, 02:17 PM #20 Senior Member Senior Member
 Obama: Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, & Lehman BrotherSo it's ok with you if he takes the money regardless of what people's intentions are? Originally Posted by JakeMartinez Originally Posted by JakeMartinez
 
 Shrug, I prefer more character in a person than that. I'm not saying McCain or any politician would do anything different. I think everyone on this forum knows that politicians will do anything for money, but to say what you did and then say that he's not in the pocket of these people is naive in my opinion.
 
 You don't get something for nothing. An idea that most people in this country seem to have forgotten.
 
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