White Widow cabinet grow

[jakezking]

PJ, I am a clean freak - at least my kids would say so - and I am seriously impressed by your cab; it flippin' ROCKS! I am glad to see your lil' ladies flourishing so well. It seems like you have everything under control - good lighting, good ventilation, good air movement, good soil, good nutes, soon to be diagnosed good water, and last but not least good plants (I've seen plenty of White Widows on here, and I can't wait to get an indoor setup so I can start up more variety to include some WWs!).

The only thing I see that may help a bit with the runt is to replant it so its head sticks above the rim of the pot. I had an issue with some peppers I'm growing - the stagnant air below the rim of the pot was stunting their growth. As soon as I added more soil to their pot to boost them above the rim, they really took off. Your fan(s) may alleviate this issue, but I thought I'd comment on it. The best piece of advice I can give you is to relax and enjoy the grow; your plants look amazing, and you will have a great deal of fun with them and your amazing cab.

I'm looking forward to following your WWs on to harvest! Be good out there!

[Treetops]

Yeah, I did the test tube routine thing as well...the TDS meter was a step up for me....Dont hesitate to get the calibration fluids it makes life much easier....

[Puffzter]

I would be careful letting them "grow as they please".

If your WW's are any like mine they will triple in height the first 3-4 weeks of 12/12.
I grew one FIMd and 4 "grow as you please" plants and the unFIMd ones took off like rockets. Seed grown WW's has to be kept on a leach indoors so at least keep it in mind before you switch them to 12/12.
I started to take action a bit late and had to get really rough with them to keep them from growing through the floor of my upstairs neighbour

Now I don't know what genetics your WWs are etc so it might not be as big of a problem with yours as with my Dutch Passion WWs, just keep a close eye on them and don't veg them more than 1/3 of the height you can take them in your cabinet if you are gonna grow them freely. And keep the lights as close to them as possible at all times. hehe.

Cheers
Puffzter

[PlainJane]

Cheers guys! All noted.

Puffzter, I know yours got/are really unruly and I'm admittedly nervous about that, especially as these are Dutch Passion Fem seeds as well. Well, I'm nervous in a very exciting way. It's a fun prospect, big lovely plants. If mine turn out a quarter as lovely as yours did I'll be ecstatic.

Would you recommend I start something now to keep them under control? I think it may be too late for LST, the main stems are pretty sturdy on all but the "twin" runt. I could FIM or top one of them I suppose or maybe start LST on the runt, but I'm hung up on FIMming being stressful, especially as it's a bit of a warm grow (29ºc most of the time) and I'm concerned it would herm on me, or I'd fucking miss my FIM. :upsidedow

[Puffzter]

Aah.
You do have Dutch passion WWs as well. hehe.
Well then you are in for a ride just as me. These WWs will not hermi on your ass very easilly. I treated my ladies like shit for a period breaking the stems to make them grow in a "Z" to ease the stretch as well as a small light leak from a intake close to plant 4 and whatever I have done to them I havent gotten a single ball on them. The genetics is super.

And don't worry about FIM. Worst case you miss and get a topped plant instead, no big deal.
Also you can LST the top of the plants to get some lower branches to form into stems. The plants always concider the highest branch as the main stem so if you can get the top lower than the second highest branches for a while they will form robust stems.

Now I am not an expert nor am I manager of your op so you have to make a plan for yourself I'm just nudging you to be prepared for what's to come.
It is just an amazing thing to see them take off but it can get scary after a while. Another thing to concider is that they don' shift to flowering until 7-10 days after you switch to 12/12 so when lets say you wanna veg to 40cm you need to switch 12/12 at around 33-35cm.
A Dutch Passion WW grown like that untrained will become around 120-140cm tall if well lit. Not well lit it might be more and then it wont keep itself up since the stems and branches become too thin and stretched.

And tall plants are only a problem if you don't have space for it so it might not be a problem at all for you. Just sending some of the data I have collected your way since I now know we are growing the exact same strain.

Puffzter

[PlainJane]

Thank you Puffzter, very helpful info and very appreciated.

[Dutch Pimp]

Puffzter speaks the truth...:thumbsup:


I like to grow my widows..tall and top heavy...4.5 feet tall. I got the height (room)....and the light.

[PlainJane]

So they are a month old today. Something a bit strange is happening and I'm not sure if I should worry or not. They seem to be remarkably droopy in the evenings a few hours before their light goes out. A couple hours after they "wake up" in the morning they seem more perky. Is this normal?

One of them, probably the biggest one, seems to take it the hardest, really droopy. Her leaves are also a lighter green than the others with some yellowing of the lower leaves. Thinking this is a Nitrogen deficiency I gave her a tiny dose of nutes, like a small snack before her proper meal. It helped green her back up a tiny bit overnight but she's still a bit sallow. I almost think I UNDERnuted them last time and I'll be less of a pansy the next time.

They also seem to be growing more at night now when they used to grow more during lights on. Is this an indication of anything one way or the other?

Here are photos. One from last night with them looking rather flaccid and sad, and another looking slightly better this morning.

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By the way, my pH was slightly high and I'm guessing that's what some of those spots on them are. (Or maybe splash, sometimes you can't avoid it when you water) I've lowered the pH for them by means of phosphoric acid. It was 7.3-ish and I'm watering them now at 6.7-6.8 and that is what their run-off water is reading as well.

[hydrocannabis]

hell yah. woo hoo they all look great.

[PlainJane]

Right, so I found out that the drooping in the evening is pretty normal but things didn't seem right so I re-potted them. It looks like they needed it.

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