All for change...but not too much?

[Smudgeyboy]

Hello all, I'm lucky enough to be able to view the American elections from a safer view here in Europe! I'd like to share some views with you friends.

Now, George Bush Snr. has already publicly backed John McCain.

John McCain is nearly 100% carbon copy of *hitler*cough* excuse me, George BushEither! So that makes sense I suppose, if war and empire if your thing, shit on everyone else, go for it!


So, just speaking as an onlooker, your options look extremely restricted over there. It's like the candidates wade through this soap opera authored by the creator of all 'buzz' words.
I mean, if one of them was able to really answer questions, instead of just being able to make the masses clap, which they were there to do anyway, they'd win by a landslide!

It seems ridiculous how long the American people have let it go on, war after war after war. Not only is it crippling America (Health, Education, Pub. Housing, etc.) but it's killed...I dont even want to think how many people since the countrys birth. All for horrid, terrible reasons which they lied about. At all times.

All new presidents say they're for change, it seems they get shot if they really mean it.

Maybe the American people voting for change should realise it's their country to change.
If a man wears a suit and make-up, he wants you to think he's someone different to who he is.

Discuss.

Smudgeyboy Reviewed by Smudgeyboy on 09-17-2008. All for change...but not too much? Hello all, I'm lucky enough to be able to view the American elections from a safer view here in Europe! I'd like to share some views with you friends. Now, George Bush Snr. has already publicly backed John McCain. John McCain is nearly 100% carbon copy of *hitler*cough* excuse me, George BushEither! So that makes sense I suppose, if war and empire if your thing, shit on everyone else, go for it! So, just speaking as an onlooker, your options look extremely restricted over there. Rating: 5

[Dutch Pimp]

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[allrollsin21]

smudgey i agree with lots of your post. IT is a sad state of affairs. One thing i am not sure of though is if it would do any good to ac tually give thought out answers to some of the big questions. Here's why.
You can see it on this site. The two parties are so polarized that for most people it does not matter what the answers are. They are criticizing no matter what the answers. They're weak points to every plan, and putting the plan out too early gives the other side the chance to twist it, distort it, frame it out of context....
The problem is the polarization of the masses and the parties. People forget that this is ONE country. whole lot of brainwashing going on!

[DaBudhaStank]

Hello all, I'm lucky enough to be able to view the American elections from a safer view here in Europe! I'd like to share some views with you friends.

Now, George Bush Snr. has already publicly backed John McCain.

John McCain is nearly 100% carbon copy of *hitler*cough* excuse me, George BushEither! So that makes sense I suppose, if war and empire if your thing, shit on everyone else, go for it!


So, just speaking as an onlooker, your options look extremely restricted over there. It's like the candidates wade through this soap opera authored by the creator of all 'buzz' words.
I mean, if one of them was able to really answer questions, instead of just being able to make the masses clap, which they were there to do anyway, they'd win by a landslide!

It seems ridiculous how long the American people have let it go on, war after war after war. Not only is it crippling America (Health, Education, Pub. Housing, etc.) but it's killed...I dont even want to think how many people since the countrys birth. All for horrid, terrible reasons which they lied about. At all times.

All new presidents say they're for change, it seems they get shot if they really mean it.

Maybe the American people voting for change should realise it's their country to change.
If a man wears a suit and make-up, he wants you to think he's someone different to who he is.

Discuss.

You don't live here. I don't know if you have in the past, but you don't right now. Therefore, I do not take your opinion into account, as it is irrelevant.

[allrollsin21]

I absolutely take your opinion into account. How the world perceives the United States is in fact important. Lots of our problems stem from the fact that a significant portion of the world thinks of us as war mongers. I have traveled through South East Asia and was treated with nothing but kindness, but also learned of how lots of folks consider our government to be resource whores, and just plain evil.
this world is seemingly smaller everyday, opinions matter, we all have them.

[killerweed420]

Hello all, I'm lucky enough to be able to view the American elections from a safer view here in Europe! I'd like to share some views with you friends.

Now, George Bush Snr. has already publicly backed John McCain.

John McCain is nearly 100% carbon copy of *hitler*cough* excuse me, George BushEither! So that makes sense I suppose, if war and empire if your thing, shit on everyone else, go for it!


So, just speaking as an onlooker, your options look extremely restricted over there. It's like the candidates wade through this soap opera authored by the creator of all 'buzz' words.
I mean, if one of them was able to really answer questions, instead of just being able to make the masses clap, which they were there to do anyway, they'd win by a landslide!

It seems ridiculous how long the American people have let it go on, war after war after war. Not only is it crippling America (Health, Education, Pub. Housing, etc.) but it's killed...I dont even want to think how many people since the countrys birth. All for horrid, terrible reasons which they lied about. At all times.

All new presidents say they're for change, it seems they get shot if they really mean it.

Maybe the American people voting for change should realise it's their country to change.
If a man wears a suit and make-up, he wants you to think he's someone different to who he is.

Discuss.

You're a 100% correct. They always like to through that word change around. There will be no change for the next 4 years. And I would personally like to apologize to you foreigners for making such a mess of this planet. Its bad enough we have our own country royally screwed up but that we have to go screw everybody else's country too.
I wish I knew what the answer is but I don't. America is just going to continue down this path of self destruction till its all gone. Our forefathers are rolling in the grave.

[Smudgeyboy]

Thank you people for not getting offended!

I would like to make it clear I think America is a beautiful country and it has the potential the be the best country in the world, the heights it could rise to are endless.
I believe it will reach these heights in the near future too but that's a different topic

I was using America as an example DaBuddhaStank, if you want to show someone what red looks like you show them the most obviously red thing you can find, didnt mean to offend. The rest of the Western world is a deep, deep orange! My opinion counts a huge amount though, as does yours.

[Smudgeyboy]

This whole left/right thing is very damaging I think, it's one side against the other. There is far too much of that coming with capatilism.

So even if the 'left' win, the right wont help their cause so only half (huge exageration) the country is helping out.

Obama has said he wants to go into Pakistan after Osama Bin Laden.
Bush wanted to go into Afghanistan 7 years ago after Osama Bin Laden
McCain wants to stay on where they are and probably more.

WAR IS INSANE! Imagine it man, Jah, it doesnt bare thinking about.
Obama wont stop wars, he'll start them.

Bush is a bad man for many, many things. Some are publicly known but most are not.
He went into Afghanistan needlessly, next Iraq, Iran.

So Obama says he's the polar opposite, but he's adding Pakistan to that list?
Is he going to take out the Federal Reserve (the cause of America's economic disaster)?
We have 4 countries being taken over for oil (and other things that most dont know about)

[Smudgeyboy]

Sorry, pressed enter accidentaly!

David Rockefella knew once he set up the Federal Reserve, he with some friends help, could take over America.
'Give me the purse strings of a country and I care not who makes the rules.'
In capatalism, money makes the rules.

But yeah, if Obama was the opposite to bush, the ying to his yang this is what would happen.

All troops out as quickly and peacefully as possible, set up the countrys his predecesors(sp?) have ruined truely democratically and them them be.

He would make hemp and cannabis legal, he would have no need for oil or paper from trees anymore. Nearly everything would probably be made from hemp.

He would fire nearly everyone because they are money hungry power monsters looking for empire, the last thing the world needs.

The problem with this is that the system has gone this way long, ago since JFK they got alot tighter about who makes it to be a candidate. Since then it seems to be proghanda and heavily media influenced opinions.

If any of you are Christians (Im not personally) you should check out 'The wolf in Sheeps clothing' in Revelations for some weird coincidences!

[Esoteric416]

It's all TOO true. Partisan polotics are killing this country and no one seems to care as long as their guy wins. The problem arises when you tell people that they are part of the problem, no one wants to hear that, especially if they have been voting the party line for the passed several decades.
Personally I have voted only once in any presidential election and it was in 2004 for Kerry just so it would be a vote against Bush, of course the electoral college for my state (Utah at the time) went to Bush so what I had to say didn't matter.
*sigh*
I am getting really sick of the presidential election being more of a popularity contest that anything else. Have you ever heard the idea of "That guy seems like an ok dude to have a beer with, I'll vote for him." How stupid is that logic?
What I'd like to see in a cantidate is someone who is willing to state the finer points of their plans for the country and then be prepared to make changes to those plans if shortcomings are pointed out. It would also be nice to see someone who doesn't have a speach writer; smeone who has ideas to put forth not just rhetoric. It would be nice to see a cantidate hold a real town hall meeting with real people that actually represent the average american and it would be nice if they could talk about some real stuff, not just gloss over the basics.
From what I've seen I think Id like to see a Ron Paul/Ralph Nader ticket. I'd probably vote for that combo.
Or maybe we should find out who wants to be president the least and then make them be prez. How about some of the first responders from 9/11? They seem like decent people.