sick seedligs

[should]

im not sure if its because they dont have enough nutes, ph, heat stress, or over watering but all of my seelings (6 diesel ryder) lower leaves turned yellow and today i checked on em and now theyre starting to show some red in the middle... Help please!

btw i wrote that my ph was 6.8 but my ph meter is a little faulty so if you think it might b ph let me kno.

E-indoor
E-soil
E-specific medium organic mg
CSL-Soil type/brand organic mg
SCLR-6.8
E-Water source tap
E-Source water pH 6.8
E-Age of plant 2 weeks
E-Type of fertilizer none yet

E-Lighting source and distance from plant 4 cfls 2 to 3 inches
E-Air temperature (both day and night if you are running a dark period) usually in high 80s
E-Air % Relative humidity 38
E-Lighting schedule just switched to 20/4 before it was 24/0
E-Type of ventilation your room has 4 inch vortex

should Reviewed by should on 09-16-2008. sick seedligs im not sure if its because they dont have enough nutes, ph, heat stress, or over watering but all of my seelings (6 diesel ryder) lower leaves turned yellow and today i checked on em and now theyre starting to show some red in the middle:mad:... Help please! btw i wrote that my ph was 6.8 but my ph meter is a little faulty so if you think it might b ph let me kno. E-indoor E-soil E-specific medium organic mg CSL-Soil type/brand organic mg SCLR-6.8 E-Water source tap Rating: 5

[stinkyattic]

Man, the fact that MG soils are too hot for seedlings is virtually undisputed...
NO PRE_FERTED SOILS!!!

You're locked out by too high levels of nutrients in that dirt. The best you can do is next time they need water, water them HEAVILY (but slowly and gently) so that lots of water runs out the drain holes, to try and wash some of that crap out of the soil.

Don't worry about your pH right now. Just get that fert out of there ASAP!!! And make sure you have good light and air flow, because your plants need to use up the water you give them instead of just sitting in it after a flush.

[8182KSKUSH]

wow! I can't believe this but I have a chnce to give some advice!

you may want to drill some half inch size holes into those pots too! more on the bottom andd more up the sides to help with drainage! don't let the pots sit in water either!

this is advice that the stinkster has given before, can't believe she didn't mention it!

[should]

I thought organic soil had too low of nutrients to cause burn? ill flush them tomorrow tho cause i already kno your right haha, thanks! and btw whats up with the one plant all the way to the right? some sorta mutation making the leaves alot bigger then usual or sumthin...

and kush thanks for the advice but there are already holes in the bottem.

[8182KSKUSH]

I thought organic soil had too low of nutrients to cause burn? ill flush them tomorrow tho cause i already kno your right haha, thanks! and btw whats up with the one plant all the way to the right? some sorta mutation making the leaves alot bigger then usual or sumthin...

and kush thanks for the advice but there are already holes in the bottem.

I realize that, they are not enough. IMO.:jointsmile: But good luck anyway!
I have those exact same pots.

[bickeybammer]

i use those pots to and they work fine with the holes they have no need to drill more, but that's my laziness lol im sure more the better for the roots :hippy:

[stinkyattic]

You can burn with organics too. It's just a touch harder. Ever use chicken manure fertilizer? That shit is NASTY and burns WAY easy.

[should]

Damn, i didnt know that. bad news tho, i flushed 2 days ago and theyre still lookin pretty bad, i cant tell if theyre gettin worse or better but they deff arent prime. i think it may be overwatering though so ill wait a couple days and see what happens

[irydyum]

Stinky is absolutely right on about the organics causing burn. A good friend of mine recently burned out a beautiful Blueberry plant with too much blood meal and using Maxicrop with every watering. Just like us, moderation is key until we learn our tolerances, then we know how to push the limits. We aren't just placed here with knowledge of our limits, they need to be learned. Couple that with the fact that strains react differently, and then you can see why this is such an artform.

It has been my experience that when I place my germinated seeds in soil, watering once thoroughly now, will sustain the little plants water needs for up to the first week in some instances. I have drowned more seedlings than I care to admit by overwatering. Remember that roots need oxygen as much as they need water, and keep this principle in mind. It may help you to use a slightly larger container with a substrate like hydro-corals in the bottom. In the case that you do overwater, the roots will still have an O2 rich zone in the corals to balance out the occasional heavy hand.

Just some ideas for you, and best of luck with your grow.

"""Keep it green"""
Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear.

[Dutch Pimp]

I have modified my method, for germinating seeds.

I flush the new soil at least once and let it drain COMPLETELY. Then I add the seeds to germinate and only use a hand spray bottle to keep the soil moist as the seedlings sprout and grow. T-12 floro light and 80-85 degree temps, 16oz cups... first 1-3 weeks....:twocents: