Do you practice Unconditional Love?

[delusionsofNORMALity]

Don: that explains a lot of what I've read from you!! I feel for you!.....
.....My wish for you, is to experience 'unconditional love!'

that slight disconnect from the rest of reality is a useful tool in dealing with the madness, both my own and that of the rest of humanity. i consider my bitterness as a recovering alcoholic considers that next drink, knowing it as a crutch and shying away at the last moment for the sake of his own sanity. my unconditional indifference is not absolute, just as my unconditional loves were not. yes, i have been there and some remnants remain.

man was not meant for unconditional anything, our rational minds are far too restless. our instincts betray us as we search for weakness even in those we love, knowing that they too are searching for some lapse in contentment. our better selves may forgive, but that evil spark within us all will never forget.

[DaBudhaStank]

man was not meant for unconditional anything.

I think that line sums up humanity in general. Man always tries to feel like we were MEANT to do something, when in fact I dont believe we were MEANT to do anything at all. Of course, I'm skewing this line to my own ends, but whatever. I've always felt that man is just here to make our own way, to do the best that we can with what we have. Sometimes I feel like we overestimate ourselves, in that we search for peace, zen, internal balance, ya know, nirvana, that type of thing. I feel like its not actually something our psyches can even achieve. But we also underestimate ourselves, or rather we underestimate each other and what we can do. Complicated.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

that man is meant for anything at all is the ultimate conceit. we exist, isn't that enough? we are meant to live and to die and to fertilize the plains with whatever is left over. we search everywhere for meaning and patterns, always finding (surprise, surprise!) that which we seek.

[Hollywierdtoker]

People only do things because they expect something in return.

I don't expect anything in return. I love because I can. It doesn't cost anything. I love you! hehe...

[Coelho]

Coelho: gay means joyful! I believe! and you got a cheerful hug. Take it for what it is, as you kindly did and with such confidence--I love it! You are not being insulted, unconditionallly loved by so many of us! I think a lot of you! A psychological fact. those that are uncomfortable with 'gays' are generally uncomfortable with their own sex identity. I see you as a strong and confident man, from ever so many posts and threads I've read by you! I rad and think, I hope I go to Brazil one day, what a jewel they have there!

So a very nice lady bug hug to you-hope it helps! Plus, I think with all your awesome receipes--I thot you were a chick for quite some time! I think you rock and have a great deal of self confidence and hi on the likeability chart! Plus, you were MAN ENOUGH to say, :wtf: hugs back. That takes a very well adjusted person to do that! I cannot believe you are single-but some like it for all the time, some for some of the time and some for none of the time!
A man that cooks weed, rocks--that is all there is to it and bakes it too! Am waiting for your Barnes & Noble mmj cookbook! I do like you as you are! Have learned so much from you and respect you. You is !

Wow Painretreat! If i were prone to blushing, i would be pretty red right now...

Well... i wasnt really annoyed with their hugs... i was only following the "males code of conduct" which states, among other things, that men must react angrily at anything that resemble gayness (in the usual [not joyful] meaning), or even anything that be not very manly... Gandalf is a man, and im pretty sure Bhouncy is also, so i was sure they would understand. It was not serious, thats why i put the s.

Its very sexist, i know... and im sure you only thought i was a woman because i never show my sexist opinions here... if i did so, you wouldnt only be sure i am a man, but also would think im a chauvinist pig... lol!

Anyway... conducts code or not, i always enjoy a ladys hug, so *hugs back*
If you ever come to Brasil some day, tell me, so you will have the opportunity to give me a real hug... you will be very welcome here, and im sure you will love here! We brasilians love foreign people, ask anyone who have been here... and its a wonderful place! Beautiful places, nice weather, nice people, no hurricanes, no earthquakes, no wars, no terrorists... and if a cop catch you with weed (what rarely happens), some $10 is all you need...

BTW my experience with cooking with weed is far more theoretical than practical... unfortunately i only had plenty of weed during one year, when i tried all the recipes i could think of... now i only can remember that good days and dream about when i will have the opportunity to revive them again...

And yes, even being so "likeable", "self-confident", "strong" and all that very kind words you said, im single... not by lack of girls, but by my own choice. When i used to have feelings, i knew how feels to love someone and dont be loved back. As now i have not feelings anymore, i know that if i started a relationship with a girl, it would be only to harm her feelings, cause she would be loving me while i wouldnt be loving her back. As i dont think its nice to harm anyone in such cruel way, i prefer to be alone.

Concerning unconditional love, i think its better give it than recieve it. As almost anything else, recieving is good, but giving is better. I cant explain, but it feels different. So, if you can spread love for the people around you, do it, and enjoy. Cause it will do a lot of good to you, more than you can even concieve... and if you only get evil from other people, even better for you. Once i did read a very interesting thing that was something like this:
"When you do good for someone, you are accumulating virtue for you, and when you do evil for someone, youre giving they your own virtue."
So, if you do good, you get virtue, and if they pay you back with evil, you get even more virtue... I think its a thing to think about...

[painretreat]

DaBuddaS: If you knew me, you would think differently of one person in the world. I did not learn unconditional love, until I was 30. So, I just peeked, you have some time yet! Hope it doesn't take you as long as me.

DoN: Respect your opinion and understand so much more. Thanks for the insight.

Coelho: What can I say :jumphappy: U make me want to go to Brazil! Every since I read your first thread!! I'm red faced! Your post was extremely interesting and I like to read more of true feelings, such as yours! Now, I know, you must protect yourself for putting yourself 'out there' and not having that full feeling of love! I believe love is learned, as all behavior is! I had to learn it!

I actually learned it from a dog. Dam thing, was so stubborn, hard to train, 2 yr. old and a pain (could go on) but the biggest challenge of my life at that point! You could not keep him in a house (15 lb Shih tzu). No matter what I did to him or how much I scolded him, I just loved that little guy so much, I had never felt like that. I yell 'No" and he would run up to me with his little tongue hanging out, panting, tapping his front feet and bouncie! Such cheerful eyes and loyal! My best friend at the time was a psychotherapist! I told her, I just love that little dog and I don't understand it. I can't wait to get home from work or take him for a ride, whatever. It seems so odd for me! She said: "That's unconditional love!" He died a few years later, unexpectedly--I was a wreck for many months. For the first time in my life! That is when the light went on! This is what we need to do for each other, as people! So, I apply it in my life, without notice now! I still have dogs, though. Even if I am having to go to court to get them back right now, I love that little funny happy furry face. Problem is: I have never felt that from another human being! It is a time thing, it never happens over night. EVen with a dog, it takes time!

Now, cheapseats.com here I come!!! Take care you are special! PR :thumbsup:

oh, Billionfold: at least it isn't a "pig fest, clean up on isle 7!" have a good one!:jointsmile:

[TurnyBright]

Unconditional love is the ONLY real love. "Romantic" love is usually more an expression of fear!

[painretreat]

Unconditional love is the ONLY real love. "Romantic" love is usually more an expression of fear!

Now that makes sense!! :thumbsup: pr

[Coelho]

Unconditional love is the ONLY real love.

I agree completly!

"Romantic" love is usually more an expression of fear!

Well... i would say that romantic love is an expression of sexual desire, parent love is an expression of possessivity (MY son/daughter) or self-love (as sons and daughters are actually a part of their fathers/mothers), and filial love is a expression of the need for protection, care and nourishment.
So, the only true love is the one felt for everyone or everything, without any other reasons, desires or attachments. The one which is given by free without need of retribution of any kind.

[Coelho]

Coelho: What can I say :jumphappy: U make me want to go to Brazil! Every since I read your first thread!! I'm red faced!

Your post was extremely interesting and I like to read more of true feelings, such as yours!

Well... beware of knowing persons true feelings... if one day you know them as i do, you may turn into a misanthrope like me...

Now, I know, you must protect yourself for putting yourself 'out there' and not having that full feeling of love! I believe love is learned, as all behavior is! I had to learn it!

I already loved a lot... but after several things that happened i learned that all the loves i used to love (that were not the unconditional love) were only forms of attachment, and thus only sources of suffering (as it were). Then i dropped it. And now i only seek the unconditional love that is felt for all the living beings.

Problem is: I have never felt that from another human being!

Indeed... i dont know exactly why, but it seems human beings are the hardest beings to love (well... except mosquitoes and cats... damn them!)... i havent any difficulty in loving plants or animals... but humans, no way.