Barack Obama Swipe at Palin "Lipstick on a Pig"

[dragonrider]

I could care less about the comment Obama made but I can see why people are like "WTF".

Go home and ask your wife a g/f the difference between when she proudly calls herself a pitbull or when you call her a pig. I'm sure if people looked at it like that then it would be obvious why this is such a big deal.

Secondly if you heard the crowed they applauded on that comment.. how many southerners have you heard cheer and clap when someone says "you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig"? I'm willing to bet never or on some very rare occassion.

Point being is Obama is either a huge idiot or he's a total jerk.

1. Palins pitbull comment is very well known. Regardless if it's a saying in the south.. Obama knew she said that and had to have had some idea that people would take what he said and applied it to Palin. If he didn't think that it would get turned around this way then this guy has got to be dumb. This is politics, how can you not expect the obvious.

2. If he knew that Palin said this and said it in reference to her then he's simply a jerk.

Again, honestly I could care less about this particular statement but I think this is how the media and a good portion of American citizens view this.

I find it amusing in a very sad way that anyone cares at all about this. I think it's another case of media feeding frenzy over nothing, being whipped further by partisans looking to exploit the trivial.

You listed two possibilities. The third is that he meant nothing by it whatsoever other than the exact point he was making at the time, that McCain's policies are nothing more than the same old "pig" dressed up in maverick "lipstick."

Choose to take it however you like it, but I think the reaction is either oversensitive or cynical media manipulation.

1. Palin is so hurt by this supposed slight, that she is unfit to be even the leader of the local soccer mom association:

Palin: Mr. Putin, you must pull your troops out of Georgia IMMEDIATELY!

Putin: You are a pig with lipstick.

Palin: WaaaaaaaAAAAHHHHHHH!!! Did you HEAR what he CALLED me????? WaaaaaaaAAAAHHHHHHH!!! I'm taking my delegation and GOING HOME!

Grow up, "pitbull!" People are going to say a lot worse about her by the time this is done and she better toughen up.

2. The McCain campaign thinks they can spin this as some kind of sexist slam by Obama by playing up the false sensitivity and fake outrage, and maybe they can boost his negative ratings and strip off some female voters.


Which do you think? The pitbull is so sensitive this really hurt her feelings? Or she isn't really hurt by it, and the McCain campaign is pretending snesitivity for their own advantage?

It's a bunch of hype over nothing. Either that or Palin is too emotionally fragile to be VP in my opinion.

[daihashi]

You listed two possibilities. The third is that he meant nothing by it whatsoever other than the exact point he was making at the time, that McCain's policies are nothing more than the same old "pig" dressed up in maverick "lipstick."

I listed only two possibilities because he'd have to be an idiot to make any type of comment that was so similar to Palins that it would easily be twisted/misconstrued (ie: He's a moron for not forseeing this. I think person on this forum stoned out of their mind could've seen this spin coming).

Or that he knew it would get twisted but didn't care and said it just to attack.

Again, this one was so obvious I saw it coming right after I heard him say it.

I don't see Palin crying about this at all as you portray her in her fictional encounter with Putin; but I will agree with one thing you said. The media is blowing this out of proportion.

Honestly who cares if he calls her a pig, giraffe or skunk. She could be a Badger for all I care. :hippy:

[dragonrider]

Secondly if you heard the crowed they applauded on that comment.. how many southerners have you heard cheer and clap when someone says "you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig"? I'm willing to bet never or on some very rare occassion.

I've heard the phrase many times, as I mentioned before, but you are right, not too many people laugh at it. The only other time I heard anyone actually LAUGH was when McCain said it about Hillary Clinton:

Ha! funny the repubes grasping for straws on this, they just cant stand it when they get hit back........
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHAOodl6ZfE[/YOUTUBE]
McDumbass smears Hillary as lipstick on a pig....

Clinton got over it OK, I'm sure Mrs. Palin will dry her (fake) tears soon and re-apply her lipstick and get right back in the game. You go girl!

[dragonrider]

I listed only two possibilities because he'd have to be an idiot to make any type of comment that was so similar to Palins that it would easily be twisted/misconstrued (ie: He's a moron for not forseeing this. I think person on this forum stoned out of their mind could've seen this spin coming).

Or that he knew it would get twisted but didn't care and said it just to attack.

Again, this one was so obvious I saw it coming right after I heard him say it.

I don't see Palin crying about this at all as you portray her in her fictional encounter with Putin; but I will agree with one thing you said. The media is blowing this out of proportion.

Honestly who cares if he calls her a pig, giraffe or skunk. She could be a Badger for all I care. :hippy:

These candidates have to talk their freakin' heads off all day long, every day, for a year straight. They are going to say something stupid or oblivious now and then. I say something stupid or oblivious at least once a day --- thank God I don't have a million cameras on me all the time and a whole "quick reaction team" there to spin everything I said in the worst possible light.

I've made a lot of jokes in this thread because I think it is totally ridiculous, but here is my God's honest non-partisan take on this thing:

I think it was a dumb thing to say considering Palin used the lipstick-on-a-animal image so recently in regards to herself. However, I do not think he intentionally used it in an attempt to belittle her that way. I don't think that is really how he works. I don't see him personally insulting people that way. It does not seem like his style at all. You may think that is partisan on my part, but that is really my take on him.

I also don't think Palin was personally insulted by it. I don't think she is really that emotionally delicate. I certainly hope not.

What I think is going on is that the media LOVES this kind of thing and they are doing everything they can to keep it alive. And I also think the McCain campaign loves having this negative light shone on Obama, and they are stirring the pot, and will continue to do so for as long as this will last.

This is not about one candidate really insulting another and that other candidate genuinely being hurt by it. This is about one campaign seizing on an apparent gaffe and making as much political mileage as they can on it, and about the media willingly subvertng the political process by devoting all their energy to fake hype.

It's about as legitimate as the McCain-doesn't-know-how-many-houses idiocy. Both campaigns know how to stir the pot of fake outrage, and the media LOVES it. It is a big waste of time though when they are real issues to settle.

[dragonrider]

Honestly... I'm not sure if people have noticed but I've been commenting less and less in the politics forum. This is the reason why, people aren't discussing politics anymore and are just falling prey to media drama made to boost ratings.

Focus on the issues? I hate it equally as much as when people try to pin Obama down on trivial matters also.

So I've been holding back more so than usual and anticipate by the time it comes for the actual election I probably won't be participating at all. This election like all others before it is finally starting to enter the mud slinging phase.

Everyone sit back and watch the children play. :hippy:

I am really starting to agree with you on this. This is getting stupid. I might need a break.

Tried to +rep you on this but couldn't.

[daihashi]

I am really starting to agree with you on this. This is getting stupid. I might need a break.

Tried to +rep you on this but couldn't.

no worries.. I know you're just as tired of the BS as I am. but it's to be expected since we're heading into the last 60 days.... this is about the time when everything gets stupid.

[Psycho4Bud]

I've made a lot of jokes in this thread because I think it is totally ridiculous, but here is my God's honest non-partisan take on this thing:

I think it was a dumb thing to say considering Palin used the lipstick-on-a-animal image so recently in regards to herself. However, I do not think he intentionally used it in an attempt to belittle her that way. I don't think that is really how he works. I don't see him personally insulting people that way. It does not seem like his style at all. You may think that is partisan on my part, but that is really my take on him.

Nice to see ya say that Obama actually did something assnine. The DNC with Obama was accused of sexism with Clinton and now this; NOT the thing to do during the general election when women voters that are a bit salty.

Seems damn funny to me that when the Obama camp accused Bill Clinton of racism that was alright but when Obama makes a slip of the tongue he didn't mean it.
-Rev. Wright was just his preacher.
-William Ayers was just an acquaintance.
-He just didn't have the time to vote on the MoveOn issue in Senate. I guess the Senate doesn't have the "present" option.

LOL....granted that this site is considered "left wing" but lets get real. Seems to me that if Obama was to shit in the middle of the road many members would be stating on what great environmentally safe fertilizer he created.

I still say that the only way Michelle Obama will ever sleep with the president of the U.S. is if one of our future presidents decides to have an affair.

Have a good one!:s4:

[8182KSKUSH]

no worries.. I know you're just as tired of the BS as I am. but it's to be expected since we're heading into the last 60 days.... this is about the time when everything gets stupid.

The rapid response team is trying too hard here, and sinking down to the liberal media's level on this attempt. It's a far cry from what has been said about McCain and Palin, but it doesn't make it right. Just the way politics is in these United States today though.:jointsmile:
I think you and Dragon have nailed it, it's a non issue.
And stupid.
On that note
Isn't it against Buycrack Osama's religion to actually "put" lipstick on a pig? I mean touching the pig and all. I mean, you know, cause he's a muslim?
Before anyone gets their pink panties in a bunch, I AM FUCKING KIDDING!
(I am sure it would take more than that for the muslim clerics to kick him out of the Al Queda)
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:lol5::lol5::lol5::lol5::lol5::lol5::lol5::lol5:

[8182KSKUSH]

LOL....granted that this site is considered "left wing" but lets get real. Seems to me that if Obama was to shit in the middle of the road many members would be stating on what great environmentally safe fertilizer he created.
Have a good one!:s4:

I get that exact feeling everyday!:thumbsup:
Not that it would be a good fertilizer, but that many here would believe it was.
You know what I mean.:jointsmile:

[RobPA]

Honestly... I'm not sure if people have noticed but I've been commenting less and less in the politics forum. This is the reason why, people aren't discussing politics anymore and are just falling prey to media drama made to boost ratings.

Focus on the issues? I hate it equally as much as when people try to pin Obama down on trivial matters also.

So I've been holding back more so than usual and anticipate by the time it comes for the actual election I probably won't be participating at all. This election like all others before it is finally starting to enter the mud slinging phase.

Everyone sit back and watch the children play. :hippy:

Agree 100%. I cant even reply to some of these stupid statements that are made lately.