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[palerider7777]

Palerider, you're a scumbag. We've been over this exact same issue in a different thread (the Colorado Dispensary Reviews thread) and in that thread you gave up and now you're crying because patients are tired of being ripped off by greedy dispensaries.

And you say cuz we're "mad that someone said they should pay for something and [not] get it for free off from the hardwork of others." Nobody here said anything about free, except someone supporting the prices saying basically I wish it were free but it's not. Dude, look at your reputation after 1,170 something posts - it's non-existent. That can only mean one thing; that people don't generally like you! I'm new to the board, but in the week or two since I've been here I can see why.

You suck man, let the patients ask for more reasonable prices cuz what they're asking for is only reasonable access, and perhaps many people in the production industry is confused, but the first people that Medical Marijuana laws should benefit is the patients, not the producers. The producers already make enough money, even without it being legal.

There's absolutely no reason that deregulation of a manufacturing market should cause price increases for the public, unless the system is corrupted and over a period of several years after deregulation few companies end up monopolizing the entire marketplace and conspiring to drive prices up. Deregulation should never lead to an immediate price jump upwards, and the proponents of deregulation of any industry always argue that it will bring the price down, because logically that's the only thing that can happen in the immediate term.

In any case of deregulation of any marketplace, if the producers immediately begin making a higher profit than they were before (which they are in this case, since they can be open about it and thus can serve many more customers - they're getting filthy rich compared to what they're used to, because they've been able to cut out all the middlemen and bring their product straight to a higher number of customers) while the customers recieve higher prices than before, that's always an example of the producers taking advantage of the new rules and of their customers.

It is plain and simple that any grower today is making more money serving more people because of the deregulation of the market than they were in years past, and that the legitimate patients are more often than not being raked over the coals by greedy businesspeople. This is no different than what happens in mainstream medicine, I'll give you that, but let's not pretend that it's not happening because it is.

I'm from Connecticut where there is no medical marijuana. The price there for good bud $35-45/8th and great bud is never more than $50/8th. Maybe it's because we're closer to Canada or Vermont or Maine or something, I don't know but I always imagined that Colorado was one of the good places to get pot too. You know, one of the producer states, where you can go to get really good pot for really cheap and bring it back home to enjoy; but I was wrong. Colorado has had medical marijuana for so long that apparently big business is already taking over the marketplace and gouging patients just like in any other legal healthcare industry, and the prices that patients have gotten used to paying are so much higher that even the street level dealers are jacking up their prices in order to take advantage also. Connecticut is not even a place that grows a lot of pot, we're just nearby some places that do, but to residents of Connecticut the finances of the Colorado medical marijuana market is a nauseating joke, the same way that the finances of Wall Street banks can be a nauseating joke. It might be funny if it weren't so disgusting.

The industry as a whole is gouging here, and as I pointed out in the other thread you can find plenty of caregivers and growers in colorado who offer good prices for great medicine, but they are the exception, not the rule, and anything over $300/oz is more than I would ever pay in Massachusetts or Connecticut, two states without current medical marijuana laws (in Connecticut possession of less than an ounce is still a felony) and two states which compared with Colorado, have all but nonexistent domestic production industries. I bet the price in Colorado was cheaper twelve years ago when there was no legal medical marijuana.

the lil insults show your age as does your view on life. did i read correctly u wanted to come here to buy great bud on the cheap and take it back to your state?why?dealing? hummm. im a scum bag cause i said the biz have every right to do there biz the way they want and instead of crying like a lil baby about it and it's so free and easy to do then quit being so lazy and do it yourself? im a scumbag for that? damn what has the world come to.no wonder the gov does what it does.

you want to know the # 1 reason the shops are charging what they charge? your not very smart or either u don't think to much ahead on shit 1 of the 2?

i'll break it down for the simple minded,

it starts with the grower most shops have to buy just like anyone else it's called "product". where do they buy it from u guessed it the grower. now lets talk about this grower first he has to buy seed 15 to 20 per seed on avg say 100 for the grow starting out.if he sticks to that strain he can clone after that.k then the setup your looking anywhere from 1500 to 3k depending and that bill keeps going each time btw.then nutes about 150 to 300 per grow depending, soil or other medium 50$,every 1k of light u can add about 40 to 50 onto your bill a mo,then the stress from leo and robbers and anyone else finding out.fyi even tho it's legal i damn sure don't want leo or anyone else to know im doing it. why? what so peeps can be keepin there eye on u?nope.


then the knowledge comes in my dad used to own a locksmith biz and would open cars for 25 each and make keys for 75 to 100 each.and he would go to open the car and it would take him 10 to 20 secs.and sum people would say wow that was fast and a waste of my money u just made 25$ for 30 secs of work.my dad would reply you paid for my brain my knowledge.now to sumone like u that sounds like a rip off? sometime he would say hey u owe me nothing throw the keys back in the car lock it and say get in it yourself smart guy.

what they did'nt know was that had a 2k a month phone ad,1k a month building rent,400 a month light bill,and sold about 15k a month in products keys,locks and safes and so on. now people like u only picked up on 15k a month wow there all his bills paid right there...wrong 15k in sales don't mean u made 15k about 5/8 to 3/4 of just the 15k went to paying back the product he bought get it?

back to the grower shall we? so after all that the grow just plunked outta his pocket then we add up his time in the garden?or does that not count like any other job? thats like saying toby keith just made an album and he's charging 20 each what u gunna say wow all he's doing is singing and they charge that much wow look at all the money he's making"not taking in to account it's done in bulk".

so it's a full time job growing then comes the long part of trimming hunched over a bucket or where ever hours on end depending the size of crop.so in your big huge brain how much do u think the grow should get? say he pulls down 2lbs every 2 1/2 months how much u think he should get? 50 an oz? that would be 1600 for 2 and a 1/2 months of his money and time on the line thats it 1600? i say 50 an oz cause your bitching about 300 being to high and in order for the shop to turn a profit the grower would have to get next to nothing for it.even if i said 100 an oz thats 3200 for 2 1/2 months work,time,stress,his own money being spent.

basicly what your saying is fuck the grower and or fuck the shop thats making it so u can get it in a safe place?

like i said it's so easy and free u do it and quit whining simple.