Quote Originally Posted by Coelho
For your information, not all "3rd world" countries are the shit you "1st world" inhabitants thinks they are. If it were so, there wouldnt be so many foreign people (from the wonderful 1st world) living (and loving) here... learn first, talk after.
true, i didnt meant to offend 3rd world countries, just used the term as it carries some connotation for general 1st world or even same 3rd world public.

I'm in fact a green card holder in America coming from a 3rd world country.
what i meant by a 3rd world country shouldnt be viewed as all 3rd world countries are bad or anything close to that. only that some offer less quality of life in means of material and freedom. perhaps i should have used the word "some" before 3rd world countries, i really didnt mean all are in that way. plus some countries are considered developing nations which i personally do not count as 3rd world. If I offended you, I apologize, I didn't mean to.



Quote Originally Posted by Coelho
It wouldnt work... the system wouldnt provide any legal means that enabled people to fight against it in any effective way... so any legal means provided by the system are only a way to distract people, to make them think they will arrive at something, but in fact they will keep being under the systems control.
perhaps i didnt make myself clear enough, what i said by utilizing the system is the same way those against the people have used it. here in America, interest groups play a key role and will continue to do so on influencing the government. marijuana for example has a lobby a rather weak and poor one, called NORML, compare that to NRA, AIPAC and energy lobbies play very large roles in keeping their interests on lock. Votes and letters to representatives of people DO play a role, not nearly as powerful as lobbies. now on feasibility of having such a lobby for a cause like MMJ or marijuana itself, it will take people to be educated on the matter of how politics works and on the matter of which lobby or group actually represents their opinions. If people want to change things in a quick and effective manner, it takes money and dedication to lobby the legislative branches of government to change laws, but 1st people must know what NORML or any other group exactly stands for, then contribute to it if they believe in it or if such cause helps them.

most importantly, it takes wealthier people to help this process, because general contributions are not gonna be able to compete with those of industrial lobbies. they are using their profits to keep the laws that benefit them the same.

and i dont know by rebellion what u mean, but any other but using legal ways available in the system is kind of a revolt and revolution, at best a civil disobedience which requires even more unity and spirit of sacrifice among the people, something which i simply dont find especially among many stoners here. people rather live it the way it is and dodge the fed's fishing net, they will be happy with their own fate being "survivin it" and will at best sympathize with those who do get caught.

I strongly believe the way American government is setup the best way and most effective way to influence the government is to have a strong lobbying organization for the cause

check this
cannabisnews.com: NORML Heads Work To Ignite The Troops
"He said that .1 percent of marijuana smokers get involved with decriminalization efforts and challenged the crowd to imagine what would happen if a whole percent of marijuana smokers got involved."

I just hope u r not suggesting the only way to fix this is to take out to streets and riot? if legal channels wont work, then what is the alternative u r suggesting--i assume u have enough knowledge of American system since post is about america...