Light Movers - Yield Effect?

[Graybeerd]

Thanks Xcrispy. How many plants were under the mover?

If there are more plants, but taking longer to finish, does it even out? Is it more, or less, efficient?

Such as, if it took 2 weeks longer to finish the grow, but you ended up with 50% more bud, then it would be more efficient, right?

[d4twamp]

got the same mover as X to the C in the flowering room 5.5 x 6.5 w/ a 1k hps.. it seems it would be enough but I agree w/ CRISPI another thouie would be better, if you've got the air movement to accommodate it. I was able to run the light closer to the canopy

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[Dutch Pimp]

so....an extra light is better than one light on a "mover"?

[xcrispi]

so....an extra light is better than one light on a "mover"?

YES lol ,
Atleast at my house Pimp .
I'm an impatient SOB .
I even tried pawnin it off on a fellow site member , who will go unnamed , and she wouldn't bite either . lol . She had already bought a 2nd 1000 too .

Greybeerd - I had 4 plants under the single 1000 and mover . It took an extra month to flower em . Huge plants though bro. 4 filled an entire room . 5.5 ft. tall , 4 ft diameter . Looked like a smaller version of Shaggys crazieness .

It might work out better w/ tonsa plants untopped sog ? But that shit won't fly at my house . I fear high plant count nos.

Peace
Crispi

[TheXFactor]

u seem to have decent credentials and im new to this specific board. used to be an OGer. So not too much if a rep for me here yet, and beginning my first indoor grow with a 4x4x7 tent w/ 400wattmh with 13 seedlings livin it up, happy frog, 6-3-6 nute in 2 weeks, plan on vegging for 6-8 weeks, and maybe keep 1 female mother from a fem seed i have going. then put into a 9x10x8 w/ mylar with a 1000w hps... im experienced outdoor with soso result, mother nature can mean. I plan on using a light rail from corner to corner. and was told by a wiseman, that the light rail should never used to extend a grow area but rather to make the original intentions more efficient. time will tell for my experience. but i am perplexed with the idea of 2 600w hps on a light rail, possibly along with 1 1000 watt centerd for flowering.

[Graybeerd]

Perplexed? I would think that the two 600W lamps would be more efficient than one 1K lamp, especially if they were on a mover.
On that advice about movers used to "make the original intentions more efficient". No matter how you slice it, if you move the lamp, you are "extending the grow" a certain extent. I know what he means, to vary the light angle so that areas of the plant that would not get light in a static setup would get some light periodically. But, like the old saying goes, "there is no free lunch", any time you move the light around the growing area you are diminishing the amount of light in any particular area.
This is the problem that I addressed in the original post, but nobody has come up with a formula, or opinion as to whether periodic intense direct light (with a mover) can be substituted for a static setup, and most important, where is the point of diminishing returns, how far can you stretch the growing area before you are impeding the plants growth.?
There has got to be a formula for a setup that would take advantage of the moving light to maximize the crop, but I haven't figured it out yet. Everyone says, "just add more lights". Well sure, thats a no brainer. I'm just trying to figure out how far you can stretch the ones you have to maximize the harvest.

[SnSstealth]

found this one, claims to be more effective due to faster movement/closer to canopy

Welcome to the Solaround Light Mover

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[killerweed420]

I'm going to try building a manual light mover in my flower room. I've got a 1000w hps air cooled. I'm going to use the upper rail from a hanging closet door,attach my light to a couple of the rollers and every evening move the light from one side to other for 24 hours. In a way it would be better than a motorized system because with motorized the center still gets most of the light. This way I can alternate the foot print

[Stuper Star]

Graybeerd is on the same pg as me i think
I too am interested in finding the "just right" amount of light movement. My gut tells me that it is actually a short distance for maximum benefit.
My experience is mostly with 1K's in 4ft parabolic reflectors(vertical bulb) covering 5x5' areas, even up to 6' wide on one side....great success.

Now. We have 25 one ounce plants under that 1K in a 5x5' area achieving 1.56lbs every 9wks (2wk veg, 7wk flower).
If we make the area 5x7' and add the light mover, we add 2 rows of plants. 10 more.
So now the light is moving...but I figure that rows 2-6 can't possibly lose any yield and will AT LEAST produce the same as if those 5 rows(2-6...5rows) are still under a stationary light in their 5x5' space. BUT...those rows 2-6 are now getting slight light angles and technically, should yield more. But even if we just let them stay the same...1oz ea.
Rows 1 and 7...even if they "only" produce 1/2oz ea...10 of them total...5oz extra. Just by adding a mover.

That's my theory.
Just over a 1/4lb more on the very first cycle for the cost of a basic mover on your 1K light.

I think most people move the light too far.

[Stuper Star]

Forgot to comment on plant counts for ya Greybeerd.....
In general...4 per sqft is max density. 6" pots, all touching.
You mentioned 2gal pots...at 8", you can fit 3across per 2feet...so a 5ft width = seven 2gal pots/plants

Veg time...strain...topping/scrogging...these are all factors that determine the best choice in plant count.